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<p>
<strong><span>1</strong></span></p>
<p><strong><span>Where Do I
Belong?<br /></strong></span></p>
<p>&#8220;Oh no, she&#8217;s
taking out the belt again. Mommy, no! Mommy, what did I do wrong?
It didn&#8217;t hurt anything.&#8221;</p>
<p>I was four and had ridden
my tricycle on the wet concrete in front of our apartment
building.</p>
<p>That was far from my last
welts: Come home late: welts. Play with a tennis ball in the house:
welts. Talk back: lots of welts.</p>
<p>School was no safe haven.
It was boring and I couldn&#8217;t sit in my seat: I stared out the
window at the Esso clock, happy each time the clock changed to the
next minute. I&#8217;d get up and wander the classroom. Teachers
kept telling me to sit down. Bored again, I&#8217;d do things like
tilt my chair back to the maximum point and occasionally beyond:
Crash. No surprise, I got Unsatisfactory in &#8220;conduct and
social behavior&#8221; and more welts.</p>
<p>The kids didn&#8217;t
like me either. I was a show-off. I didn&#8217;t realize that
showing your abilities would piss kids off. My head became a noogie
receptacle. A noogie is a punch to the head in which the middle
joint of the fist&#8217;s middle finger is raised to concentrate
the impact. </p>
<p>Atop the physical pain
was the emotional. I hated being a reject: not getting invited to
birthday parties, getting the fewest Valentine&#8217;s Day cards,
getting chosen last if at all for basketball even though I was
pretty good.</p>
<p>I coped by withdrawing.
By the time I was in high school, I felt like a boxer who had been
pummeled round after round&#8212;I was reluctant to come out for
more. So I played basketball by myself, even bowled alone. I read
most of the 45 Hardy Boys books, then anatomy books in a failed
attempt to quell my fear of death.</p>
<p>I think that fear stemmed
from my mother being the 20<sup>th</sup> century&#8217;s first
health-food nut: She sprinkled wheat germ on everything and
wouldn&#8217;t take me to restaurants because &#8220;You
don&#8217;t know what junk they put in.&#8221; She even warmed the
orange juice because &#8220;cold isn&#8217;t
healthy.&#8221;</p>
<p>In college, I still had a
hard time finding my place. There was no major I loved.
Fraternities seemed too juvenile. I wrote for the student newspaper
but never got into the &#8220;in&#8221; group. I felt safest in the
gardening club. Its focus was less on the social and more on the
plants. That felt good.</p>
<p>That brings me to work.
When I was a kid, I wanted to be a doctor but then there was the
hypochondria and all those hard science courses. Lawyer? I like to
talk but not argue. The business world? I don&#8217;t care much
about profit. Non-profit? Too slow. Government job? Even slower.
Self-employment? Like I said, I don&#8217;t care much about profit
but maybe that&#8217;s not so bad&#8212;If I cared about profit
just enough to make a decent living, maybe I could develop a
following.</p>
<p>But self-employed at
what? I don&#8217;t know anything. It&#8217;s not like my parents
had a business I could take over. Sell coffee from a cart in an
office building? I&#8217;m no status-seeker but that&#8217;s a step
too low, even for me. I wish I could be a singer, writer, or actor
but don&#8217;t like the odds. Besides, I have no
talent.</p>
<p>They tell you to do what
you love and the money will follow. Well, what do I love? Not much.
I like a lot of stuff, but love? That&#8217;s a high
bar.</p>
<p>Okay, what do I like? I
like food but a career in food would be dangerous. I&#8217;m
already a little overweight and Bill&#8217;s Chocolate Cheesecake,
oh-oh. Shaw said that food is the sincerest form of love, but his
BMI must have been 100.</p>
<p>I like music but what am
I going to do, open a nightclub? Too much investment, too much
risk. Besides I like classical music. Not much demand for that. And
listen to hip-hop all day? I&#8217;m not that
cool.</p>
<p>I like roses. Back East
where I grew up, roses bloomed just two months a year and you need
to spray them with an arsenal that would have impressed Saddam
Hussein. But when I came to California, I was amazed that that many
roses, that romantic flower factory, don&#8217;t need spraying,
bloom eight months a year, and a plant can last for
decades.</p>
<p>But how in the world
could I compete with the megacorporations whose economies of scale
let them sell roses cheaply to granny.</p>
<p>Wait a minute: granny.
Hmm. Grandmothers buy lots of roses but many more don&#8217;t
because growing them is physically demanding or they&#8217;ve
downsized to a senior-living apartment.</p>
<p>I remember seeing small
pots of tiny rose plants in the supermarket and they&#8217;re not
marketed at all&#8212;Without any signage, the micromini roses are
mushed between the ferns and the
philodendrons.</p>
<p>And because micromini
roses are so small, I could grow thousands in my small backyard.
I&#8217;d buy the best varieties from leading rose breeders as
cuttings and root them. I could multiply them for pennies a piece
and sell them for dollars apiece&#8212;Even cocaine doesn&#8217;t
have that big a profit margin. (And I thought I didn&#8217;t care
about profit?)</p>
<p>Let me tell you how it
played out over the years. I tried to pitch the big-box chains but
got screened out before I got to talk with anyone. Their
questionnaire asked whether I had a $10 million insurance policy.
Hah! Indemnification? I didn&#8217;t even know what that
was.</p>
<p>The independent nurseries
also said no&#8230; until I made them an offer they couldn&#8217;t
refuse. I&#8217;d let them have the first dozen plants for free and
give them a sign &#8220;Granny&#8217;s Roses: small effort, small
space, big pleasure,&#8221; with a picture of a grandmother tending
roses in a window box.</p>
<p>Fast forward. I&#8217;m
now 70. I did well enough that my little business outgrew my
backyard, so I found a grower two hours away, Romance Roses, that
would grow them in quantities for a buck
apiece.</p>
<p>And recently, I allowed
myself something well-suited to a not-social person, especially as
we get older: a doggie. Because my puppy has a mind of her own, I
named her Hillary: Bill and Hill.</p>
<p>
<strong>2</strong></p>
<p><strong>The Choir<a name=
"_Hlk98847821"></a></strong></p>
<p><span>Hillary, a puffy
tank with corgi legs, became my &#8220;on-the-other hand&#8221;
conversation partner.</span></p>
<p>
</span></p>
<p><span><span>For example, in
bed, I said to Hillary, &#8220;On one hand, how could anyone be
against peace? On the other hand, violence works. If we
didn&#8217;t fight the Nazis, today we might be shouting Sieg Heil.
On one hand, shouldn&#8217;t we blow up Putin&#8217;s army? It
would stop that modern-day Hitler. On the other hand, it could
cause nuclear war&#8212;We should let the sanctions work. What do
you think, Hill?&#8221;</span></p>
<p>
</span></p>
<p><span><span>My next
&#8220;on-the-other-hand&#8221; related to my little business:
&#8220;Hillary, on one hand, Romance Roses grows quality roses and
only charges me a buck apiece. On the other hand, they just claimed
that a whole field of my <em>I Love You</em> rose burned in a fire.
It was my very best rose&#8212;odd coincidence. Should I change
growers?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Hillary tilted her
head trying to understand, then turned away and went back to
sleep.</span></p>
<p><span>As befitting a
70-year-old, I creaked out of bed. Stepping over the strewn <em>New
Yorkers,</em> I picked up my phone and started filling orders for
roses, those so small that even infirm people can grow them. With
each plant, I include a heart-shaped
stake.</span></p>
<p><span>I&#8217;m far from
rich but live decently thanks to some thrift: &#8220;Why live in a
fancy neighborhood when serviceable ones are half the price? Why
buy a new car when an old Toyota with years of reliable life left
is 90% less? Why pay a fortune for a painting when you can get a
wall calendar with 12 prints of priceless art for the price of a
frozen pizza?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>My
self-congratulation evaporated when I saw the pop-up on my phone:
The lab results from my wellness exam were in. I thought,
&#8220;Everyone is just one blood test from a death
sentence.&#8221;
</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;All
normal!&#8221; Even though I&#8217;m agnostic, I exhaled,
&#8220;Thank God.&#8221; I&#8217;m too aware that few 70-year-olds
get &#8220;all normal.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;Now,
Hillary, to <em>your</em> health: It&#8217;s time to make that spay
appointment. Sorry to have to nip you in the
bud.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Hillary finally
toddled out of bed, looked at me with feed-me eyes, and giving her
breakfast became top priority.</span></p>
<p><span>Next, it was time
for a walk. Hillary sniffed the dog park&#8217;s gate. &#8220;After
you&#8217;re spayed, Hill.&#8221; But she tugged and the park was
empty so I chanced it. I monitored her for a while and when she
still had the dog park to herself, I turned back to my phone,
writing cute thank-you notes to customers: &#8220;You chose the
Sexy Granny rose.
Hmm.</span>
<span><span>&#240;&#376;&#732;&#352;&#8221;</span></span></p>
<p><span>Not a minute later,
I looked up in horror as Hillary was enjoying a cocker
spaniel&#8217;s rhythmic attention. I had been immersed and so
didn&#8217;t notice Casanova&#8217;s arrival. I tried to reassure
myself: &#8220;Hill is just five months old, probably too young to
get pregnant. But I thought, &#8220;Hot Stuff, the party&#8217;s
over.&#8221; It wasn&#8217;t easy to get Hillary back on the
leash&#8212;She preferred cocker company but finally, homo sapiens
prevailed.</span></p>
<p><span>During our walks,
I&#8217;d often look at my phone and, for months, all was fine. But
one day, as we turned onto a street, a stealth-quiet electric
scooter slammed into me and I crumbled. After three weeks in the
hospital and a $20,000 bill despite being &#8220;insured,&#8221; I
would, below the waist, be permanently
paralyzed.</span></p>
<p><span>To distract myself
from my future, I stayed busy&#8212;no more strewn <em>New
Yorker</em>s, no dishes in the sink, no laundry piling up,
everything company-clean: Like in The Glass Menagerie, I was
preparing for a gentlelady caller who&#8217;ll never
come.</span></p>
<p><span>Embarrassed to see
people, my social life consisted mainly of PrisonerPenPals.com and
yet more on-the-other-hand talks to Hillary. For
example,</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;Why do I
keep my shipping guy? He&#8217;s lazy and makes lots of mistakes.
Maybe I should pay him to <em>not</em> work for me. On the other
hand, he comes from a tough background and if I fire him,
he&#8217;ll probably go back on drugs. What should I do,
Hill?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;Why do I
work so hard? On one hand, I&#8217;ve always believed that
life&#8217;s value lies mainly in productivity. On the other hand,
my work means little: So what if fewer people buy roses? Should I
have more fun? What would be fun? I still have most of the
oxycontin from the hospital. On the other hand, I don&#8217;t want
to risk getting addicted. What do you think Hill?&#8221; Hillary
stared, then padded away.</span></p>
<p><span>My healthy diet
gave way to new food groups: chips, pizza, and chocolate. The baby
carrots rotted. I drank yesterday&#8217;s coffee. My apartment got
so cluttered that my wheelchair sometimes stalled. Once, it toppled
and I might still be on the ground if not for the pizza delivery
guy.</span></p>
<p><span>When I ran out of
the oxycontin, time having chiseled away at me, I found a doctor
who&#8217;d give me a prescription for something even stronger:
fentanyl.</span></p>
<p><span>One night, while
sleeping, I heard Hillary groaning and then a choir of whimpering.
I woke to see Hill having given birth to four squirming puppies
that were nuzzling aside her. I stared, experiencing one of
life&#8217;s few events that deserve the word
&#8220;awesome.&#8221; And I cried. It somehow triggered a flood of
gratitude for the miracle of life.</span></p>
<p><span>I reached for the
bottle of fentanyl, crawled out of bed, into my wheelchair, and
flushed the pills down the toilet.</span></p>
<p><a name=
"_Hlk98923724"></a><strong>3</strong></p>
<p>
<span><strong>Iris</strong></span></p>
<p><span>Opioid-free, the
carrots were fresh again and the <em>New Yorkers</em> weren&#8217;t
strewn but piled. Guilty about not reading them, I considered
cancelling but didn&#8217;t. I nurtured Bouncy, Bella, Einstein,
and Jumbo the sweet runt, and posted on my neighborhood forum,
&#8220;Four sweet, poodly-corgiyish puppies, free to good
homes.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>My vetting process
was worthy of Harvard but I had an easy pick in Iris.
Seventy-three, she was home a lot, had an enclosed yard, had dogs
all her life, lost her Daisy after 17 years, and wanted one more
dog. I also liked that Iris&#8217; first choice was
Jumbo.</span></p>
<p><span>Iris walked with a
cane, which made me feel less embarrassed at being in a wheelchair.
I also liked her understated look: the short gray ponytail and just
a little peach lipstick. Plus, for the first time in many years, a
woman showed interest in me: She looked into my eyes just a
fraction more than required. She asked me an unnecessary question:
&#8220;You keep your apartment quite nice. Do you do it
yourself?&#8221; And then another: &#8220;May I ask how you ended
up in a wheelchair?&#8221; I explained and then asked, &#8220;Iris,
would you like a cup of
coffee?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>She cradled Jumbo
and lowered herself into a chair.</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;Iris, what
do you enjoy doing?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;Well,
I&#8217;m in a short-story club. We&#8217;re all older and when we
read novels, we tend to forget what we read, even just yesterday.
With a short story, we can finish in one
sitting.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Because she
couldn&#8217;t think of anything to say, she asked the same
question: &#8220;And what do <em>you</em> like to
do?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;I&#8217;m
still working. Let me show you. I wheeled to the few roses I still
kept in my backyard and gave her one plus a heart-shaped plant
stake on which I wrote,
&#8216;Iris.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Embarrassed, she
changed the subject and found it easy to just ask, &#8220;What else
do you like to do?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Looking down at my
now useless legs, &#8220;I used to hike but now I talk yet more to
Hillary. I like to express multiple sides of an
issue.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;For
example?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>I decided to show
Iris how I talk to Hillary. &#8220;Hill, come here.&#8221; After
just two requests, she waddled over. &#8220;Hillary, on one hand,
billions of people have faith in a loving God and have done so for
thousands of years. On the other hand, if God is all-seeing,
all-powerful, and loving, why would that God let me get run over
while walking my dog? Why do millions of people die of natural
disasters? Then there are the babies born with a horrible disease
and die leaving grieving
parents.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Iris said,
&#8220;Even my priest said that she sometimes wonders if God
exists. Yet don&#8217;t we all need to believe in something bigger
than ourselves? And when you look at nature, couldn&#8217;t there
be a grand design? Bill, what&#8217;s another example of your
on-the-other-hand talks?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>&#8220;On one hand,
it hurts me to see fat cats have mansions, yachts, and luxury
penthouses while other people starve. On the other hand, when we
redistribute money and effort from society&#8217;s contributors, we
all suffer. The people most likely to cure cancer, to be wise
leaders, to invent the next Google, will likely be people who
already have contributed a lot. I mean, if you had ten solar farms,
wouldn&#8217;t you invest more in the farms that produced the
most?&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>Iris said,
&#8220;My head says to invest in the best but my heart feels for
the least among us.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>I was feeling
something I hadn&#8217;t felt in decades: infatuation. And,
stressful by nature, I had to air my most worrisome concern.
&#8220;Iris, I&#8217;m paralyzed from the waist down, with all that
implies.&#8221; Iris sighed, &#8220;To be honest, if we were to get
intimate, I&#8217;d consider that a relief. I too am not what I
used to be.&#8221;</span></p>
<p><span>After an hour of
conversation, light about family, friends, and pop culture, heavy
about mortality, the meaning of life, and that we both had secrets
that could go to the grave, she led my wheelchair to the bed. We
kissed, hugged, and fell asleep, butt to
butt.</span></p>
<p>
<strong>4</strong></p>
<p>
<strong>Romantic
Roses</strong></p>
<p>I woke up surprised to
see another person in my bed but then remembered and dropped back
onto the pillow, musing, &#8220;Yesterday was lovely but do I
really want a relationship? I&#8217;ve gotten used to sleeping just
with Hillary, being mainly with Hillary, doing what I want, when I
want. But I&#8217;m getting ahead of myself. Maybe Iris will get up
and say she regrets the whole thing.&#8221; But when she awoke, she
smiled at me.</p>
<p>
</span></p>
<p><span>Over a breakfast of
chocolate croissants and rich coffee, I shared that dilemma about
Romantic Roses, which claims that a field of my best rose had
burned. I could find another grower but it would be more
expensive.</p>
<p>
</span></p>
<p><span>Iris asked, &#8220;What
do you think of our driving the two hours to Romantic Roses to
check them out?&#8221;</p>
<p>When I called there for
an appointment, the owner hesitated before too-enthusiastically
saying, &#8220;Sure!&#8221;</p>
<p>The monotonous drive down
101 into the Central Valley gave Iris and I plenty of time to talk.
For example, we revealed the top item on our bucket lists. Mine was
to give a two-minute talk on the pros and cons of Cancel
Culture.</p>
<p>Iris asked, &#8220;What
are they?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Pros: Fewer lies,
less malevolence. Con: Censorship of politically incorrect ideas.
It reminds me a little of Stalinist
Russia.&#8221;</p>
<p>At the top of Iris&#8217;
bucket list: &#8220;Dinner with Louise Penny, who wrote a novel
with Hillary Clinton. Penny&#8217;s novels are comforting: simpler
times, wise protagonist, always-solved clever mysteries set in a
close-knit village.&#8221;</p>
<p>After snaking through
farm roads, we arrived at the sign: &#8220;Romance Roses
Inc.&#8221; with a logo of a man on bended knee, offering a bouquet
of roses.</p>
<p>The rocky path to the
office was less inviting. It would have been
tricky even if I wasn&#8217;t in a wheelchair. The office was a
shack with the office sign askew. There was no doorbell so Iris
opened the torn screen door and knocked. The owner&#8217;s voice
demanded, &#8220;What?&#8217; When we identified ourselves, he
transformed: &#8220;Oh, welcome. Come on
in.&#8221;</p>
<p>The owner ushered Iris to
the plastic patio chair in front of the dented metal desk. I
wheeled aside her and the owner parked himself behind the desk, a
moat.</p>
<p>I said, &#8220;Tell me
about the burned roses.&#8221;</p>
<p>Too casually, the owner
said, &#8220;Oh, an employee lit a cigarette, tossed the match,
walked off, and by the time I saw the fire, it was too
late.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iris asked, &#8220;Would
you mind showing us the area?</p>
<p>&#8220;You&#8217;ll see
it. Walk wherever you like.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iris and I bucked along
the path and tractor tracks, she steadying my wheelchair. And yes,
one of the fields was burned, the plants unidentifiable. I sighed,
&#8220;Let&#8217;s have lunch and go
home.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iris said, &#8220;We
hadn&#8217;t seen a place to eat but maybe if we drove a little
further.&#8221; We did, and a half mile later, set back from the
road, was a field of rose
plants&#8212;mine.</p>
<p>&#8220;I should sue the
bastard. On the other hand, it would cost me a fortune for a lawyer
and Romantic Roses, Inc. probably can afford a fancy firm that
would paper me into submission. It&#8217;s just a few thousand
bucks of roses. Maybe I should just find another
grower.&#8221;</p>
<p>Iris said, &#8220;I like
that other hand&#8221; and took his.</p>
<p>
<strong>5</strong></p>
<p>
<strong>Secrets</strong></p>
<p>We strolled the riverfront, I
in my wheelchair, Iris with her cane, Hillary the furry tank, and
Jumbo, Hillary&#8217;s and Casanova&#8217;s love
child.</p>
<p>Iris said, &#8220;How nice that
they&#8217;ve developed this area. It has created jobs and fun for
tourists.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;On the other hand, there
have to be better things to build than yet more gift shops, wine
bars, and frou-frou bistros.&#8221;</p>
<p>Disliking conflict, Iris
changed the topic. &#8220;My reader&#8217;s group focuses on short
stories but we just read an essay,
<em>Go Gentle into That Good
Night,</em> by<em>,</em> of
all people, the movie critic Roger Ebert. It began with something
like, &#8216;I&#8217;m not scared of death. After all, I was
content before I was born and I&#8217;ll be as content after I
die.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>I admitted, &#8220;What
I&#8217;m afraid of is dying. Most people have to endure so-called
&#8216;procedures&#8217; and drugs that have side effects worse
than the&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the moment that Iris
tripped on a crack and dropped to the sidewalk. The passerby
didn&#8217;t respond to her cry, perhaps because he was wearing
headphones. I pulled her up while she pushed down on the wheelchair
wheel.</p>
<p>&#8220;How hurt are
you?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not.
It&#8217;s just that the arthritis has made my legs weak.&#8221;
She exhaled.&#8221;</p>
<p>
&#8220;What?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s
progressing&#8212;What an inaccurate word,
&#8220;progressing.&#8221;</p>
<p>
&#8220;Fast?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8230; &#8220;Well,
that&#8217;s a secret I wasn&#8217;t ready to reveal. Fair&#8217;s
fair: Talk.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Well, I&#8217;m PC on
many things: I&#8217;m pro-choice, pro gay marriage, and not very
materialistic, but there&#8217;s one thing: I believe the world is
worse when we have reverse discrimination.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But do
we?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Today, commercials and
the entertainment media usually portray white men as evil or
clueless, shown the way by a superior minority or woman. And many
employers and universities see white men as undesirable, their
accomplishments tainted by
&#8216;privilege.&#8217;&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But shouldn&#8217;t we
compensate for the legacy of slavery and lingering racism and
sexism?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Iris, that cure is worse
than the disease. When we allocate resources on anything but merit,
not only do the applicants resent being unfairly rejected, the
coworkers suffer, all of us suffer in the quality of everything
from customer service to airline pilots, health care to our
leaders. The three words I most believe in are &#8216;merit above
all.&#8217; I&#8217;m afraid to say that to anyone, even
you.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;But Bill, isn&#8217;t
there another hand? Shouldn&#8217;t we give extra to the least
among us? Or less lofty, won&#8217;t being generous
prevent&#8212;forgive the sanitized term&#8212; social unrest? ...
Well, you and I have tough secrets: I with my progressing
arthritis, you with your verboten view.&#8221;</p>
<p>I opened the front door, Iris
held my eyes, and we went in.</p>
<strong><br /></strong>
<p>
<strong></strong></p>
<p>
<strong>6</strong></p>
<p>
<strong>Marry?</strong></p>
<p>There were a few months of river
walks, on-the-other-hand chats, and septuagenarian sex: lolling in
bed, playing as much with the snuggly Jumbo and feisty Hillary as
with each other. There were the gin games and the guilty pleasures
of pizza, cinnamon rolls, and my favorite: chow fun&#8212;greasy,
delicious noodles.</p>

<p>Of course, there were
arguments:</p>

<p>There was the bedroom temperature
contretemps: &#8220;Why don&#8217;t you get an electric
blanket?&#8221; &#8220;They&#8217;re not safe.&#8221; &#8220;Come
on, the chances of an accident are tiny.&#8221;</p>

<p>There were the discussions triggered
when we were watching TV or a movie: Has wokeness gone too
far?</p>

<p>And the debate about who Iris should
leave her money to: &#8220;Your kids already have plenty of money,
plus they treat you like crap. Give it to a charity with big ripple
effect, like that low-income school&#8217;s mentoring program for
gifted kids.&#8221;</p>

<p>But mainly, our relationship was
good, very good, and I wondered whether it was time to &#8220;shit
or get off the pot.&#8221; What a horrible expression, I
thought.</p>

<p>As we were making coq au vin, I
mused, &#8220;On one hand, we&#8217;re not getting any younger and
it would be good to count on each other in our old age. And I do
love her. Plus, as a 70-year-old paraplegic, it&#8217;s not like a
horde of amazing women will be knocking on my door. On the other
hand, what if, like in so many marriages, things change after the
wedding. Divorce would be so painful and expensive. Why not just
continue living together?&#8221;</p>

<p>I decided that, rationally, marrying
didn&#8217;t make sense, but one night after a gin game filled with
lots of laughs, a little gin, and Jumbo particularly nuzzly, to the
background of Alexa playing Abba, I succumbed to the other
hand.</p>

<p>&#8220;Iris, I wish I could get out
of this wheelchair and down on my knee but &#8230; I was sure
I&#8217;d spend the rest of my life alone and then, this kind,
pretty woman walked through my door to adopt a puppy. Now, how
would you feel about our adopting each other?&#8221;</p>

<p>The wedding was at the river walk in
front of a sculpture of an old couple holding hands on a park
bench. It wasn&#8217;t your typical wedding:</p>

<p>The guests included mere
acquaintances who made our life a little better. There were clerks
at Trader Joe&#8217;s who not only broke the law in allowing
Hillary and Jumbo in but petted them. There was the butcher who cut
beef bones into slivers so that Hillary and Jumbo could enjoy yummy
gum massages without too many calories, and the Amazon driver ever
delivering pleasure, who used her income to support her true love:
writing a novel about a delivery driver.</p>

<p>The officiant wasn&#8217;t a cleric
but Iris&#8217; daughter.</p>

<p>And here were our vows:</p>

<p>Me: I promise to take care of you
after your hip replacement.</p>

<p>Iris: I promise to take care of your
prostheses and wheelchair.</p>

<p>Both: We promise to stay together as
long as it&#8217;s wise.</p>

<p>Me: I promise to try to work out our
differences and not let fights unnecessarily escalate.</p>

<p>Iris: Me too. And I promise to look
for the good and not unduly dwell on the other hand.</p>

<p>Both: And we promise Hillary and
Jumbo that we&#8217;ll be a loving mommy and daddy.</p>

<p>Me: I love you, Iris.</p>

<p>Iris: And I love you,
Bill.</p>

<p>Iris petted Hillary as I picked up
Jumbo, whereupon Iris&#8217;s daughter announced, &#8220;I now
pronounce you husband and wife.&#8221; And the five of us hugged as
the guests clapped and then stood.</p>
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<p><strong>We Have an
OVERSupply of STEM and Law School Grads. Under-the-Radar
Careers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
was driving along the freeway, and I saw the umpteenth sign and
other marketing effort to try to get more young people to major in
STEM&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math. And I
remember having read an article quite recently that said that, in
fact, we already had an oversupply of STEM majors, which are hard
majors. And so, I did a little more research, and I found out that,
indeed, we have a tremendous oversupply of such
people.<br /></p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;oversupply and STEM
majors&#8221;, you will see study after study and report after
report&#8212;everything&#8212;from the Daily Kos, which just
recently a couple days ago did a report on it, to Slashdot, which
has a very long technical report on the oversupply. On the
conservative side, the Center for Immigration Studies did a long
report on it. And then, if you look also at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics, there is a gross oversupply of STEM
majors.<br /></p>
<p>Then why are politicians, especially,
and educators continuing to push this old, no longer accurate news?
Because it&#8217;s part of a message that says, &#8220;We need to
compete with China. We need to compete with India. From the bottom
of our economic and socioeconomic status people to the top, we can
compete.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>But, you know, we&#8217;re talking about
human lives here. Every single human being who
would not have otherwise majored in those hard
subjects&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;who
chose in the absence of the marketing campaign to get more STEM
majors, realized they are not that great in Calculus, not that
great in Physics in high school, let alone, what happens when they
get to college and they&#8217;ve got to do topography and
stochastic processes. We force them, manipulating them, using
techniques Madison Avenue uses to get us to buy cigarettes, to get
kids to major in them who would otherwise not major in those fields
because they realized they&#8217;re not their strength. It&#8217;s
crazy.<br /></p>
<p>If there aren&#8217;t even jobs in
vaunted STEM, where are the jobs?&#8221; That&#8217;s the focus of
today&#8217;s show.<br /></p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to talk about
under-the-radar jobs that even in an era in which good jobs are
ever declining, as ever more jobs are part-time, temp, automotive,
roboticized, and offshored, there are still at least in our
lifetimes&#8212;certainly for the next 10 to 25 years&#8212;pockets
of opportunity. And so, we will focus most of this show on where
those opportunities are.<br /></p>
<p>But, before I do that, I want to get the
negative out of the way&#8212;this is important. Many people who
are bright, the people who tend to listen to public radio, the
college educated, graduate degrees, or whatever, they&#8217;re
going to say, &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s either science, or it&#8217;s
law.&#8221; And yet, I have to tell you that there is a gross
oversupply of lawyers as any of you who know, who have tried to get
a law job now. So many lawyers are working as paralegals or project
part-time temp workers. The days of the white-shoe, fat-cat lawyer
are now relegated to the realm of Hollywood movies.<br /></p>
<p>Yes, if you graduate from Harvard Law
School, and you are very money-driven and willing to
work&#8212;have billed 2200 hours a year and sleep on your futon in
your office--es, there are jobs for you. But, remember, that is the
most rarified tier. Most people who went to law school went to
places like Golden Gate University, or McGeorge School of Law, in
Sacramento, or Cal Western, in Southern California. They
didn&#8217;t go to Stanford Law School or even Hastings Law School,
let alone Harvard Law School.<br /></p>
<p>I have a massive list of careers that
are growing. I want to read you a small section of an article that
came from one of the most authoritative sources you&#8217;re going
to find for lawyers: It&#8217;s the American Bar Association
Journal. It&#8217;s called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How
Long Will it Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221;
That&#8217;s the title, and I&#8217;m only going to read a section
of it for your planning purposes&#8212;roughly two
minutes.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For Andrea, a past decision to
ensure her future in law has left her in a stressed and distressful
present. Concerned over how it might affect her job prospects, she
would not allow the use of her real name. And there&#8217;s reason
for concern: She&#8217;s been laid off twice since her 2009 law
school graduation, including from a position where she earned just
$20 an hour at a small firm, practicing as a licensed attorney. For
the 29-year-old . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>And, by the way, think about how many
lawyers are 40, 50, 60, trying to find a job, and you know how it
is there&#8212;there&#8217;s a preference to younger
people.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For the 29-year-old, who has
supported herself since college, the financial repercussions of law
school may amount . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
Financial repercussions of law school&#8212;it almost seems
like a contradiction in terms. It should be the financial benefits,
and yet, here is the American Bar Association Journal saying,
&#8220;The financial repercussions of law school may amount to the
&#8220; worst investment of her life, despite a degree from a
second-tier school . . .&#8221;
<p>We&#8217;re not even
talking about a third-tier law school like a Cal Western or a
Golden Gate. Second tier law schools would be like UC Davis or
SUNY, the State University of New York; these are not bottom-tier
law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;And despite a degree from a
second-tier law school and a resume that boasts a position on law
review&#8221;&#8212;law review is the elite at that law
school&#8212;&#8220;and coveted a summer associate position.&#8221;
This was not a bottom of the barrel law graduate.<br /></p>
<p>Now, the article quotes her:
&#8220;&#8216;I deferred my loans because of economic hardship the
first time&#8217;, said Andrea, who borrowed nearly $110,000 to
finance her education. &#8216;After that&#8217;, she falters,
&#8216;They might be in forbearance . . . accruing interest . . . I
just don&#8217;t know.&#8217;<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Andrea&#8217;s situation is far
from unique. In 2010, 85% of law graduates from ABA accredited
schools boasted an average debt load of $98,500, according to data
collected from law schools by <em>U.S. News</em>. At 29 schools,
that amount exceeded $120,000. In contrast, only 68% of those
graduates reported employment in positions that require a
JD.&#8221;&#8212;that&#8217;s a Juris Doctor at law
degree&#8212;&#8220;Nine months after commencement, less than 51%
found employment in private law firm.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;The influx of so many law
graduates&#8212;44,258 in 2010 alone, according to the American Bar
Association&#8212;into a declining job market creates serious
repercussions that will reverberate for decades to
come.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>To those of you who are just joining us,
I&#8217;m reading an article from the American Bar Association
Journal called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How Long Will It
Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221; I&#8217;ve
been talking about where the jobs aren&#8217;t like the STEM
jobs&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;where
despite the incredible marketing hype, are in fact in gross
oversupply already, and the gross oversupply will likely continue.
I also wanted to talk about this law school oversupply, and then
we&#8217;re going to talk about where the jobs are. I&#8217;m just
going to finish this segment of the article.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Heavy loans now threaten to
consume the future earnings and livelihood of the nation&#8217;s
young lawyers. Yet, even as the legal market contracts, more than
87,900 potential candidates vied for 60,000 seats at the 200
ABA-approved law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Youthful over-optimism, bleak job
prospects for college grads, and the entry of several more
universities and for-profit businesses into the legal education
business are some of the root causes for the supply-and-demand
imbalance in entry-level lawyers.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Very few critics, however, have
studied the part played by the federal government through its
student loan policies in creating a law school bubble that may be
on the verge of bursting&#8212;one strikingly similar to the
mortgage crisis that cratered the economy in 2008.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Direct federal loans have become
the lifeblood of graduate education, and they shelter law schools
financially from the structural changes affecting the profession.
The bills are now coming due for many young lawyers, and their
inability to pay will likely bring the scrutiny of lawmakers
already moaning about government spending.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;As student groups continue to
lobby the federal government for increased transparency, the
lawmakers are bound to ask a very simple
question:&#8221;&#8212;they&#8217;re not, but they should;
that&#8217;s my editorial: &#8220;Why should the U.S. government,
through the Department of Education direct-lending program,
continue to make billions&#8221;&#8212;with a B&#8212;&#8220;of
dollars of loans to law students when structural changes in the
legal market&#8221;&#8212;that means decline in the number of jobs
that are available.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Why should they continue to make
billions of dollars of loans to law students when structural
changes in the legal market suggest that a large portion will lack
the earning power to repay those loans?&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a segment of that
wonderful article. But I wanted to make the case for why those of
you&#8212;yourselves or your family members or your
children&#8212;who are blindly acting as though it was still 1970
and say, &#8220;Oh, science and technology, I want to major in
that. I&#8217;ll be sure I get a job; oh, I&#8217;m not a science
person; I&#8217;m going to major in law school,&#8221; then major
and go to law school&#8212;are probably wrong, unless you&#8217;re
a superstar. Superstars can do whatever they want in any year--the
top few percent who can chose whatever they want. But the rest of
us mortals need to be more, well, realistic.<br /></p>
<p>And that takes me to the positive side
of the topic of today&#8217;s show: Where the actual jobs are for
mortals, especially those that are little known. I mean,
we&#8217;ve heard again and again, that there are jobs in nursing,
or there are jobs in accounting&#8212;but you&#8217;ve heard all
that before. So, I want to start by talking about, excerpting, some
ideas from an article from AOL called &#8220;<em>18 High-Paying
Careers that You&#8217;ve Probably Never Heard
of.</em>&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m well aware dear
listeners that you are there, and just after I offer a few of
these, I will go to the phones and invite you to call in. So,
instead of giving generic advice about where the jobs are, I can
help you come up with what makes sense for you to pursue and, more
importantly, the specifics of how to do it, because an idea is
nothing without a plan.<br /></p>
<p>But first, some high-paying careers
you&#8217;ve never heard, or at least thought of. These actually
came out of Reddit, which was then republished by
AOL.<br /></p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t think of being
air traffic controllers, but it pays a good living. An air traffic
controller makes $200,000 a year&#8212;so something under-the-radar
you don&#8217;t normally think of. We think doctor, lawyer, nurse,
teacher, social worker, non-profit activist; we don&#8217;t think
of air traffic controller.<br /></p>
<p>A variation on that&#8212;a tower
technician, who works in those towers, both at airports; and also,
apparently, in very tall buildings, there are technicians who work
on them.<br /></p>
<p>Skipping through to a few others that
are specifically non-science-oriented . . .<br /></p>
<p>Court stenographers&#8212;I used to
think that automated technology was going to replace the
stenographer; apparently, not. It&#8217;s a three-year program, but
if you&#8217;re proficient in grammar, if you have strong language
skills, if you have solid finger dexterity from, maybe, playing an
instrument or video games and you&#8217;re willing to work in a law
firm, it&#8217;s a fine career. You work from home a lot of the
time. You&#8217;re rarely starting before 10 AM. You make your own
schedule. And, you make a very good salary; $80,000, $100,000 is
not uncommon. Under-the-radar, people don&#8217;t think about
that.<br /></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what
else.<br /></p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s gross for many people,
but, unfortunately, one of the few things that are inevitable are
death and taxes, and most people cringe at the thought of work in
the funeral industry&#8212;and I do. I&#8217;ve read Jessica
Mitford&#8217;s old book about the death industry and how unsavory
and dishonest they often are. But there are a few moments when
human beings are more vulnerable when a family member dies. And
somebody who makes primary the ethics of being comforting and
helping people make wise not overly expensive decisions, at that
point, is a worthy occupation.<br /></p>
<p>If you can deal with it, it may even
help you to deal with death. I know some person who was very afraid
of death, and she ended up deciding to work in a hospice as a
volunteer, as a way of coping to it, of adapting to it or making
sense with it in some ways. So, maybe, even if you are afraid of
death, the funeral industry&#8212;done right&#8212;is extremely
ethical.<br /></p>
<p>Those are careers that are
under-the-radar, that are nonetheless viable, nonetheless ethical,
pay a good living, not offshore-able.<br /></p>
<p>And so now, I want to turn to you. I
have many, many more, and I will pepper the show with careers that
are likely not overcrowded, that pay well, that are ethical, that
are not oversupplied like the STEMs&#8212;science, technology,
engineering, management, or law. But I do now invite you to
call.<br /></p>
<p>You are listening to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. My mission in life is to help you and also to discuss
the micro societal issues about work. But today, it&#8217;s about
you, all about you. So, if you or someone you love is career stuck,
whether it be because you&#8217;re not sure what you want to be
when you grow up even if you&#8217;re already 60, or you are
already in your career and unhappy and wondering whether you should
change jobs, change careers, or you simply have any kind of
work-related problem; even in your business&#8212;I really like
helping people&#8212;or either thinking about starting a business
and have an idea they want to run by me&#8212;kind of like the
<em>Shark Tank</em> TV show but kinder. If you have any kind of
question related to your work life, I call them &#8220;three-minute
workovers&#8221;; sometimes they take ten; I don&#8217;t care. All
I care about is helping you.<br /></p>
<p>The phone number here at <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s 415-841-4134. And
while I&#8217;m waiting for the calls to come in, I have, as I
said, some more careers that are not STEM and are not law, and
they&#8217;re not likely to go away. And this was slated to be, I
think, the 40<sup>th</sup> fastest growing career that
doesn&#8217;t require a bachelor&#8217;s degree. I&#8217;ll be
talking about a few of those&#8212;one is called &#8220;purchasing
agent&#8221;.<br /></p>
<p>These are people who purchase machinery
and equipment, and tools, and part and supplies; basically online;
it could be from all over the world. Again,
under-the-radar&#8212;and many of them don&#8217;t even need a
college degree at all. Wages tend to be very good. Projected job
openings are good. Nobody thinks about being a purchasing
agent.<br /></p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve got a lot more, but
I&#8217;ll give the phone number one more time. If you or someone
you love is stuck and wants a new career idea, or you&#8217;ve got
the career idea and don&#8217;t know how to execute on it, or
you&#8217;re in a career and you&#8217;re unhappy, or you&#8217;re
in a business or thinking about a business and want to know what I
think about it, the phone number here for a three-minute work-over
on <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.<br /></p>
<p>And now, to the phones&#8212;welcome to
the show. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<strong>Caller 1:</strong> I&#8217;m 63 and
semi-retired, and I want to get into voice acting. I&#8217;ve
always liked&#8212;
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m going to stop you right there. Forget it. It
doesn&#8217;t exist; that&#8217;s a scam. There are countless
people who spend the $10,000 for the voice training program to
create their demo and whatever, and they never even come close to
making enough money to even pay back the cost of their course.
It&#8217;s a hobby because, right now, the field has changed
dramatically. Millions of people are like, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s
easy. I&#8217;ve got a nice voice. I&#8217;m going to go do
that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you know what happens?
Millions of people have their demos, and now, it&#8217;s all
online. There are websites that post jobs for voiceovers for
perhaps 50 bucks. You&#8217;ve got to submit your demo for free,
and then you&#8217;re competing with many applicants. The training
has become a bit of a scam, unless if you&#8217;re a famous actor.
If you are James Earl Jones, you can get all the voiceover work you
want. But if you&#8217;re somebody who&#8217;s a wannabe, who
starts, forget it, dude.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> All
right. But do you want me to help you come up with an
alternative?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> [laughs] No, it&#8217;s okay. I mean, that
was very informative. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
need to be straightforward. But do it for fun if you like. If you
like the idea of doing voiceover work, play, go; you can use the
microphone on your computer or whatever. Make some mp3 for the fun
of it. Frankly, that&#8217;s how I got in this radio show 25 years
ago. I just had a little home cassette recorder. My daughter had a
friend over, and I said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s play radio talk show
host.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I said to my daughter Amy,
&#8220;What do you want to talk about?&#8221;</p>
<p>She said, &#8220;Birth
order.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cool.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, I just turned on a 5-dollar
microphone, put it into an old fashion cassette deck, and said,
&#8220;Okay, tell me, are you first born?&#8221;</p>
<p>I just asked some common-sense
questions and made the recording. I sent it to KQED and KALW. And I
heard from KALW. They said, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re raw, but
you&#8217;re not too terrible,&#8221; and I got a show. So
you&#8217;ll never know&#8212;but start simple. Don&#8217;t spend
10 grand on a voiceover training program.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 1:</strong>
Thanks. You saved me a lot of time and money. I appreciate
it.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you. All right, all the lines are lighted up.
Let&#8217;s go back to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 2 hung up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong> Hi. I&#8217;m 53
years old. I&#8217;m looking for a new career. I&#8217;m in that
category where I just can&#8217;t decide what to do. Currently,
I&#8217;m looking at a program that&#8217;s in patient
navigation.</p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
You&#8217;re moving them from their beds, for the testing
room, for their MRIs&#8212;that kind of thing?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> No, like guiding them through the
healthcare system&#8212;whatever.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> It also overlaps with advocacy.
You&#8217;re more likely to hear it called, &#8220;patient
coordinator&#8221;. The field is supposed to grow. A lot of the
jobs are for RNs that want to change, and I&#8217;m not an
RN</p>
<p><strong>Marty:
H</strong>ere, I can be optimistic, unlike with the
previous caller. There is such demand for this, and the system is
going to get ever more complicated with Obamacare. There are
contradictory and overlapping rules&#8212;state regulations,
federal regulations, local regulations, Obamacare rules, insurance
company monsters that they often are. So the need for a navigator
will never be greater as the boomers age.</p>
<p>Sure, they&#8217;ll prefer RNs
because they know the ropes but it doesn&#8217;t mean there
won&#8217;t be jobs for non-RNs. Just choose the best certification
program and network your butt off while you&#8217;re in the program
to make connections. You work your butt off in fear that
you&#8217;re not going to be employable because you&#8217;re not an
RN. And I would bet on you. You&#8217;re at a right age; being
older is a plus here. A 27-year-old advocate is not going to be
seen as credible by the patient. Here is where age can be a
plus.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re sounding flat. If
you have the drive, if you&#8217;re willing to use the fear to
motivate you to do it the way I outlined, I would bet on you. Does
that make sense?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Yes, absolutely.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
can&#8217;t think of a more important job. When someone gets a
cancer diagnosis or diabetes . . . And now, they&#8217;ve got to
win their way through the system? Oh, my god! You are a guardian
angel. Have you researched the different programs that exist and
know which are good?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Well, the founder of the idea&#8212;or
whatever&#8212;he&#8217;s in New Jersey; I&#8217;m in California. I
don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m skeptical. I looked at it online. The
program&#8212;its ten modules. It takes months to do, and
it&#8217;s $1,000.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s not a lot. The ones that worry me are the ones
who charge $10,000&#8212;and they do. They are more likely to be
just in it for the money.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:
</strong>I talked to one woman
doing it. She went into her own business&#8212;which is most
common,&#8212;and she loved the program at Sonoma State. It&#8217;s
interactive. You&#8217;re in classes for six months, and they do
placement of everyone in an internship clinical . . .</p>
<p>
</span><strong><span>Marty:</strong>
Awesome! And that&#8217;s local. Why wouldn&#8217;t you do
that?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> I just, you know, need some
confidence-building.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s talk there.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Because my employment hasn&#8217;t been
good for the last . . .</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s move forward. There are plenty of people who
failed; I have failed many times in my life because I&#8217;m too
intense. I get fired for being too bold. It doesn&#8217;t make you
a loser.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, if
you were to be your best self and trust your best self, what would
you do differently in this next job to ensure that? You know, you
don&#8217;t have to be perfect, just good enough&#8212;that&#8217;s
all I ask. We need healthcare advocates&#8212;end of
story.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
What&#8217;s your first name?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Cherry.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Sherry. So, Sherry, what do you need to do this time in the
preparation, the training, and the way that you work, so that
you&#8217;re at least good?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, I think it would be wise to go to as many association
events.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Which do these you need to stay vigilant about? Your
work ethic&#8212;is it already great, or do you need to work
harder?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
It&#8217;s good.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
We&#8217;re going to keep going down the list&#8212;knowledge
of the science involved, studying, becoming good enough at the
science.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, that would be where I would gain strength because
it&#8217;s brand new, so it would be interesting to research and
talk to people. I mean, you could talk to anyone. You could meet
someone whose father had cancer or something, and talk about their
experience.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No,
what I mean is you may need to know a certain amount, for example,
about the science involved when somebody&#8217;s got
cancer&#8212;being able to be a good researcher to find out what
kind of cancer; who are the really best specialists? Where does the
insurance company turn you down? Doing that, you don&#8217;t have
to be a physicist to be a healthcare advocate. But do you think you
either have the existing knowledge or will be driven enough to get
knowledgeable enough about the particular condition that the person
has?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
I don&#8217;t have any aspect of it right now.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s making me a little nervous now. The key is
aggressive drive to be willing to fight the insurance company, to
fight to get an appointment for your client who desperately needs
an opinion from the expert. You need both the aggressiveness and
the internet research skills and knowledge of the insurance
company.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
And it&#8217;s working with the families of the
patients.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> The
compassion thing isn&#8217;t enough.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Their belief systems may not match your view or your opinion
on what they should do, and you have to be . . . I don&#8217;t
know. I don&#8217;t know.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
have to be a good communicator. You have to be a good
influencer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> As
I&#8217;m listening to you, I am getting a little nervous.
It&#8217;s a demanding job. It requires being very credible.
You&#8217;re probably going to be self-employed. And you
don&#8217;t feel entrepreneurial to me; you&#8217;re
hesitant.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m not. I want to get into a clinic, something
like that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m wondering whether you might be able to function as
an advocate for patients without being officially an
advocate.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
If you don&#8217;t know something, you can contact another
navigator. They work very collaboratively, even the ones in private
practice, they&#8217;re&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Even though you may find support, in the end you can&#8217;t
always be turning to support; you&#8217;re going to be like this
high-maintenance basket case. I&#8217;d encourage you, with a clear
eye, to look into it, to job shadow a couple of
people who do it, and then after you do that, ask yourself if, with
training, that you have the abilities to do this job at least
reasonably well. Have you done that already, or do you need to do
some job shadowing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m getting ready to do that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve got to do. Okay, I thank you
very much for calling <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Thank you. Bye.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, take care.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re listening to <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em>. Today, the show is all about you, especially if
you are trying to figure out what you should do, career-wise.
I&#8217;m talking about some under-the-radar
careers, but those are not necessarily applicable to you, and I
care to provide some guides that are applicable to you. So, for a
<em>three-minute workover</em>, for you or someone you love, the
phone number here at <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>&#8212;415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.</p>

<p>Before I go to the phones, like I said,
I want to pepper the show with some careers that are kind of
under-the-radar and that are not dying. And again, I&#8217;m
focusing for the moment on a couple of careers that don&#8217;t
even require a college degree. One is a claims adjuster. Insurance
companies are always looking for people to adjust claims, whether
they be healthcare claims or auto claims; or flood claims, now that
the drought is . . .</p>

<p>It&#8217;s always amazing, by the way.
The government always takes forever to act, so they&#8217;ve now
allocated $600 billion to drought relief as we&#8217;re being
deluged. And Southern California&#8217;s overwhelmed with water.
When I think about the last drought, and the brilliant government
took months before doing anything and then they decided what they
needed to do was build a pipe across the Richmond-San Rafael
Bridge, pumping water from Marin to the East Bay. Of course, the
pipe just sat there for years, doing nothing and costing a fortune.
And of course, the drought soon ended.</p>

<p>And then, I think of course about the
Napa trolley. In an attempt to get people in public transportation,
they built these gorgeous, beautiful cutesy trolleys to go from
Downtown Napa to various places in Napa&#8212;and it&#8217;s a
monument to government stupidity. They continued for years to run
empty, back and forth, spewing energy, [laughs] back and forth.
Nobody was ever on them, these gorgeous . . . I&#8217;m sure they
cost 200 grand each.</p>

<p>Government is just slow. Democracy is
wonderful, but it&#8217;s so slow that by the time they get
anything done, it&#8217;s diluted because of the democracy.
Everybody&#8217;s got to get their 2 cents in, and everybody
compromises. Or, it&#8217;s so late that it&#8217;s too
late.</p>

<p>Later, science has proven their
policy&#8217;s wrong, and the ethanol thing was a perfect example.
It took them seven years to decide ethanol was the answer, and then
the science found that they ruined engines, [laughs] but
they&#8217;re still subsidizing corn-growing for ethanol;
it&#8217;s a crazy world.</p>

<p>Anyway, let me go to the phones. All the
lines are lighted up. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. Hi, it&#8217;s you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Hi, I&#8217;m calling for a loved one.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, all right, so I have a son who is African-American, and
his father is Nigerian. And so, his father&#8212;engineer and
sciences, total, and what you just said.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
But the STEM thing&#8212;but he is totally passionate about
neuroscience . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Me,
too.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . and he is focused on . . . Neuroethics is what gets him
the most.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Neuroethics is great, but the people who get to work in
neuroethics are people who already have a long, distinguished
career as leading sciences at Harvard and the National Institutes
of Health. You don&#8217;t just say, &#8220;Geez, I&#8217;m really
concerned about people who are not neurotypical. They have Asperger
syndrome. And, why are they being prejudiced against in the work
place?&#8221; There aren&#8217;t jobs in that, unless you are . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
You&#8217;re preaching to the choir. But I&#8217;m also on
this cutting edge where I understand that it&#8217;s important for
someone to be passionate or like what they want to do but also with
some intelligence. Because when I started in my career, nobody knew
what I was doing. You know, 40 years ago, I went into the
environmental field. I&#8217;m African-American, and [they] even
said like, &#8220;What in the world are you doing?&#8221; But I
kind of have that kind of feel for it. But, on the other hand, we
need to figure out where to steer him, because he&#8217;s trying to
do the right things. I mean, he got an internship in San Francisco
last year, doing neuroethics kind of issues.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
old is he?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 5:</strong>
Right now, he&#8217;s 20.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
where is he at college?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s in Vassar, in New York.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
he&#8217;s majoring in a hard science or no?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, his major is in neuroscience, but the thing about Vassar,
which is really good, and also because of high school&#8212;he
writes well. So, I&#8217;m on the same wavelength as you. You
can&#8217;t write or read or articulate and speak in front of
people. I just don&#8217;t care what you do. You will always go
farther if you can have those skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, let&#8217;s slow down a little bit. He is majoring in a
neuroscience, right now.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
is he doing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Very good&#8212;he&#8217;s doing very well.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And how are his communication skills? I agree with
you&#8212;that unless you have great communication skills, if you
will get a job at all, you&#8217;re going to be staring at a
computer all day.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, he writes well and has a very good
personality.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, good. And, if you trusted your intuition, since you
say, &#8220;I&#8217;m preaching to the choir,&#8221; I&#8217;m
getting the sense that you feel he&#8217;s good in science, but
he&#8217;s not a rock star. Should he go and aim at getting a
typical master&#8217;s in public health and end up working for the
government? I see the percentage of GDP that the government is
increasing all the time, and the demographics and the way in voting
patterns are likely to change, we&#8217;ll see ever more democrats
being elected&#8212;and liberal democrats&#8212;and therefore, the
size of government will increase. Therefore, the jobs, in my
judgment, for people who are not superstar Harvard, genius rock
stars, who are mathematical modelers&#8212;will be in the public
sector. Should his aim be to get internships in public health
entities?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m going to have to
introduce to him because he has ideas that will probably cost us.
So tell him to take a public policy focus and get into a top notch
graduate school?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
To aim for a top notch graduate school.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, we live, unfortunately, in a brand name
society.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Oh, I know that. I&#8217;m not, you know . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Right, preaching the choir again. So, right, he&#8217;s at
Vassar, and, yes, trying to get into a first tier. Obviously, Johns
Hopkins is the leading one for public health.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes, but he&#8217;s in contact with, like, Yale, Johns
Hopkins.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right things&#8212;even
Oxford.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right thing . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
what&#8217;s the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . but he needs help.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
where is the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, I think you&#8217;re answering it. In terms of
neuroethics law, I agree with you. I don&#8217;t want to see him go
yet. I&#8217;m trying to find alternatives. Public health&#8212;if
I can try and talk to him and say, like, &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s
not just total nursing issue.&#8221;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Don&#8217;t talk to him&#8212;show him. Just go to the Johns
Hopkins website and the Yale website. Under public health degrees,
they&#8217;ll show you the range of things in public health. They
don&#8217;t do nursing. Those people there&#8212;they&#8217;re
policy makers; they&#8217;re activists; they craft legislations;
they&#8217;re lobbyists.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That&#8217;s where his heart is.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, well, there you go.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4</strong>
Are there any other suggestions besides public
health?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That is a launch pad. That opens door to many
careers.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
And somebody also said like maybe a
business degree and work for a pharmaceutical company, but
he&#8217;s like&#8212;because of ethical things&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No.
What I&#8217;m hearing you say about neuroethics&#8212;that&#8217;s
code for &#8220;I hate corporate America; I hate pharma.&#8221; So,
let&#8217;s not challenge that just yet. I&#8217;m not
anti-corporate, but just listening to you, and given that
you&#8217;re an environmentalist, given his focus on ethics, he
might be smarter rather than challenging that ethical framework
from which you operate to stay in that public sector for now. Does
that make sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes. I&#8217;m maneuvering myself to do something that can
really make a difference for a large amount of people.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
I have to say that I believe that African-Americans have an edge in
all of this, so I am more optimistic because he&#8217;s an
African-American, because they&#8217;re underrepresented, if you
will, in public policy. The government is very committed to more
racial equity, so I could be even more optimistic in his case. The
field now is oversupplied with white women. There&#8217;s a lot of
white women who want to make policy.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:
H</strong>e need to see where he&#8217;s going to fit
it into.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
invite you to go with him online, whether if he&#8217;s back in
Poughkeepsie, now. Go and spend some time on the phone with him,
both of you in front of the computer and look at the . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
The Johns Hopkins?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> . .
. Johns Hopkins and all those schools that have premier public
health programs. And look&#8212;they always have a career section:
&#8220;Here are some of what the graduates have done.&#8221; And
that will expand his options. And I&#8217;m a big believer in being
laser-focused, so I would encourage him to pick one thing that
really excites the hell out of him. Maybe he wants to be a lobbyist
for Kaiser&#8212;who knows?&#8212;or something else, but let him
develop a goal that&#8217;s specific. And then, let him choose his
term papers, his field work, his internships, his essay for
graduate school, which graduate schools he applied to. Based on
that specific goal, he could change. But having a specific focus is
motivating and maximizes his chances at getting hired. Makes
sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
I couldn&#8217;t pay for this advice, I&#8217;m telling
you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, good. You don&#8217;t have to.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That has been bothering me in my
gut.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Well, I love that you called, and I&#8217;m glad to
have helped. Feel free&#8212;I love it when callers call back. So,
it could be six months, two years, three years down the road when
things get clear and he&#8217;s made some progress, or whatever.
You&#8217;ll call me back, would you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Is there any way that this is streamed, so I can tell him to
listen to this program?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, if you go to my website MartyNemko.com, I have a link to
the KALW site, the actual page where it&#8217;s located.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, but that&#8217;s my problem. I&#8217;ll research that.
Don&#8217;t worry about it, but I appreciate it. Because I think if
he could hear it, himself, it will be good rather than me heckling
it.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good point.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, thanks for your time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> It
is my pleasure. Thank you for calling <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. All our lines are lighted up. I will go back to the
phones, but as I said, I wanted to pepper the show with some
careers that are not obvious, that are not oversupplied like STEM
and law.</p>

<p>Status is so important to people, but I
consider status the enemy of contentment. There are a ton of jobs
in the utility industry. This may gross you out
but&#8230; I want to thank Maureen Barry, a listener to the show,
who wrote to me the following: &#8220;I&#8216;m writing today
regarding my industry, the wastewater workforce. There&#8217;s a
growing need for more people at all levels&#8212;technicians,
plumbers, engineers, planners, project managers&#8212;you name
it.&#8221;</p>

<p>So, think about utilities. Here&#8217;s
another example. Your gas stove or drier, or
whatever, there is somebody who runs that gas plant. Not
somebody&#8212;there&#8217;s lots of people who control the systems
and do checks to make sure the gas plant of PG&#38;E are working
properly.</p>

<p>Nobody thinks about those kinds of jobs.
My job is to help you go under the radar. Okay, let&#8217;s go back
to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I help? Hello.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Great program. Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I wanted to comment on that set of career that may not
necessarily be under the radar but that are available with a great
deal of opportunities for people that are committed, talented, and
that have drive.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. Let&#8217;s hear it.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
And this is in the area of graphic design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Web design, global design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely. I manage a brand for a multi-billion,
multi-global corporation in the Valley and we are desperate for
qualified talent, not just talent that can put pixels together but
talent that understands the need to translate business objectives,
project objectives, utilizing their creativity, utilizing their
communication skills into effective design systems.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Fantastic.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
We are talking about 100K-150k a year, and we cannot find
people to deliver these skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Got
it. Now, help me understand this. I&#8217;ve had many graphic
design clients, and they are good at the graphic design&#8212;they
make pretty things&#8212;but they&#8217;re not business people. In
fact, there are many people who love design, and they hate business
and that&#8217;s why they do their art. How does one gain the
skills as well as the values that enable them to understand the
business side of things?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I understand what you say. They don&#8217;t necessarily need
to be business-savvy. They need to understand the business, the
product that this particular company is involved in. We are
involved in hardware and software or large enterprises. They
don&#8217;t need to understand the marketplace, what our
competitors are, the overall marketing strategies, but they do need
to understand what a piece of software does, so that they can
translate it visually, in a very compelling way, to a website
design, to a brochure, to a color palette. They need to understand
what that product does for the consumer and then utilize the skills
so the visualization, rapid prototype and production bring that to
creation.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And so, the ability to understand a complicated
product, is that just simply a matter of intelligence, or is it
something else? I&#8217;m trying to help my listeners who are
graphic designers. Is it intelligence, or is it more than
that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Intelligence&#8212;I think it also has to do with the ability
to utilize the creative process and ask the right questions to
identify the right solutions. I know that this is not tangible
enough.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s be specific. Take a piece of hardware. Give me an
example of a piece of hardware where you might need a graphic
designer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Storage.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great. So, big, solid-state hard disks drive that are
in an array of a hundreds terabytes&#8212;is that the kind of thing
you&#8217;re talking about?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. So, that&#8217;s the product. What do you expect this
graphic designer to be able to do regarding that
product?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
The product marketing team is going to come to the table to
us, the branding team, the branding and graphic design team, and
say, &#8220;Okay, I have this storage product that we need to
launch in three months, and here&#8217;s a long list of product
features and functionality.&#8221;&#8212;long, long. And I&#8217;ve
been in the industry for many, many years, and I still don&#8217;t
understand many of those line items on that list, but I will ask
questions about what makes this product unique.</p>

<p>Little by little, perhaps the concept of
extreme performance will come up. And, through some revisions and
through some harder interviews, extreme performance will be
continue to be a concept that bubbles up in the conversation. And
so, we will then put away the list of 20+ product features and
focus on performance. And then it is the job of the graphic
designer to come up with ideas that visualize extreme performance
but not in a vacuum, not just in any artistic way, but in a way
that makes sense for a hardware product, which means that the
visualization of it has to have very specific, back to a piece of
circuitry and metal, so that it doesn&#8217;t look like we are
talking about something soft and ephemeral.</p>

<p>And so, it is that. It&#8217;s that,
Marty. They&#8217;ll be able to ask questions that will put aside
the technical aspects of a product, focus on the benefits that the
market will receive by buying this product, and visualize in that
in a way that is appealing to the eye and engaging to the
brain.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
This is more just for curiosity: It seems like every product,
no matter how many features . . . And you&#8217;re right. The old
days of trying to market with features is stupid&#8212;it&#8217;s
always about benefits&#8212;but aren&#8217;t the benefits always
either better performance, better price, or better service? Does it
always come down to one of those three?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Perhaps, but then that is the job of the brand manager and
the product manager&#8212;to go even deeper and figure out, given
the competitive landscape in that particular product, what then to
highlight for that given period of time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> But
if there isn&#8217;t a clear, definable benefit&#8212;let&#8217;s
say, the storage system&#8212;of either performance, price, or
follow up service, then is the product maybe not worthy of being
introduced? Isn&#8217;t that really a good litmus
test?</p>

<p>And then, let&#8217;s say it is extreme
performance. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to get a visual, like
on the top of my head . . . If I were trying to show my
performance, that we had the lowest error rate of any hard disk
storage system, I might simply have a one-page ad that filled with
pixels that are all black, and only one&#8212;out of the ten
million pixels that are on that page&#8212;is red as a way of
instantly visualizing its outstanding low error rate. Should it be
more complicated than that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Well, Marty, you have to come work with me. It is as simple
as that, but it&#8217;s also as complicated as that. You would be
surprised to see how many graduates of the local and even national
graphic design schools are graduating without critical thinking
skills, critical problem solving skills, and instead of focusing
clearly on the technical aspects of the applications that we use to
do our work.</p>

<p>So, going back to your question, it is
about critical thinking. It is about intelligence; it is about
creative intelligence&#8212;translating complexity into simplicity,
product features and functionality into business solutions, and
doing all of that in the context of design, color, pattern,
typography, photography, illustration.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
are a fabulous caller. It has been a privilege to have you on the
show. I want to do something for you. If somebody who&#8217;s
listening to this show feels that they would do a good job for you,
do you want to give out the contact information so that they can
contact you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I will give out the contact information for the agency to
which I source talent.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, whatever.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I encourage people who are interested in this kind of work,
who have a passion for doing meaningful work, to look up Talent
Table&#8212;and that is the agency that I source my
talents.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
what&#8217;s your first name, if I can ask you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
My first name is Francisco.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Francisco, it has been a pleasure talking to you.
You&#8217;re anhonored member of the <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>
workforce. Thank you so much for calling the show.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
With pleasure, Marty.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, before I go to take another call, again, we&#8217;ve
been talking about under-the-radar careers. Here is something that
seems odd: I drive in San Francisco, and I see the cable car
conductors. You know, that&#8217;s kind of a fun job, for the right
person. It&#8217;s social. You&#8217;re out and about. It&#8217;s
not rocket science. It&#8217;s regular hours. And, in fact, in this
article that I&#8217;m drawing on here called &#8220;<em>40
High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>,&#8221; it&#8217;s listed as number 29&#8212;subway and
street car operators&#8212;but it&#8217;s not something most people
would think about.</p>

<p>Status is the enemy of contentment.
Please remember that some of the happiest people are not the ones
who are corporate lawyers; they have status, but they&#8217;re not
always so happy. I&#8217;m not a stupid person, and yet, if
I&#8217;m quietly asking myself, the jobs that I&#8217;ve been
happiest in my life&#8212;it&#8217;s career counselor, which is not
as prestigious as when I was a medical researcher through
Rockefeller University; and New York City cab driver, which is a
low-status job&#8212;yet I had a great time. So please don&#8217;t
let status overwhelm other factors, especially in this era where
status jobs are ever harder to come by.</p>

<p>Just a couple more examples . . . I want
to take one more phone call. These are, again, from the list of
<em>40 High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>.</p>

<p>Postmasters and mail
superintendents.</p>

<p>Power-line installers, whether it be for
telecommunications, for the evil Comcast; I do consider them evil.
Their pricing is outrageous, but they provide excellent service.
It&#8217;s just very, very expensive. They&#8217;ve essentially
driven out all competitors, so they have a monopoly&#8212;so I
don&#8217;t like them. But they do have a good product, and
they&#8217;re always hiring.</p>

<p>Transportation inspectors&#8212;One of
the sources of bioterrorism is our ports. Countless containers are
coming in. Those are jobs you don&#8217;t normally think about that
don&#8217;t require a college degree&#8212;very important&#8212;and
pay well.</p>

<p>MRI tech imaging&#8212;medical
technology imaging&#8212;you do need to have some science, but you
don&#8217;t need to be a rocket scientist. MRIs are now becoming
kind of pass&#233;. MEG scanners seem to be hot these days, which
have higher resolution and less radiation.</p>

<p>Those are great careers that don&#8217;t
necessarily require a college degree.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m going to stop there. Let me
see if I can take one more call; no, I&#8217;m not going to do
that.</p>

<p>I promised myself I wanted to do this
for you. I&#8217;m really privileged that AOL has asked me to write
a continuing saga about work for them. I&#8217;m calling it
&#8220;<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>&#8221;, and I thought I
would see if you guys like them. I&#8217;m going to read you the
first episode, as a way of ending today&#8217;s show. Let me just
give you a little background.</p>

<p>While it&#8217;s fiction, it attempts to
embed realities of today&#8217;s workplace plus my opinions and
musings and advice in all manners of things. It&#8217;s about a
family&#8217;s ups and downs. It&#8217;s computer geek David, his
music teacher wife Susan, and their active son Adam. I just thought
if I presented a career advice and workplace advice and life advice
in the context of a story, it might be more interesting.</p>

<p>Part one of <em>Days of Our Work
Lives</em> called &#8220;<em>David&#8217;s Saga</em>&#8221;;
Episode One is <em>&#8220;Open&#8221; Workspaces</em>.</p>

<p>&#8220;As usual, David Sapian awoke
grateful&#8212;grateful he&#8217;s well and that he has a decent
job.</p>

<p>&#8220;Although he works very full-time,
he dutifully helps his wife Susan get their 7-year-old son Adam
ready for school. Today, David tried to get Adam to take his own
cereal, but Adam likes being served so he threw a fit.</p>

<p>&#8220;David was grateful to finally
escape into his car. He even preferred sitting in gridlock to his
home&#8217;s morning madness&#8212;but gridlock raises his blood
pressure, too. He&#8217;s angry not at the drivers but at the darn
transportation planners for refusing to build more freeways,
so&#8212;a la slowly ratcheted-up torture&#8212;we&#8217;re forced
to sit in our cars and in ever more time-consuming and sardine mass
transit. David would rather sit in gridlock in the sanctuary of his
car.</p>

<p>&#8220;He arrived at the double-glass
doors. &#8216;It&#8217;s showtime,&#8217; he reminded himself. He
pasted his corporate-acceptable smile and made corporate-acceptable
greetings to co-workers as he strode to his cube. In corporate
America, especially if you&#8217;re 40+, you may not trudge; you
must stride. But not too fast&#8212;that would make you seem
insufficiently controlled, just a moderate stride, with good
posture: chin up, back straight, shoulders back, chest out. As
<em>Cosmo</em> founder Helen Gurley Brown said, &#8216;After 40, it
all comes down to posture.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;HR had sent an email indicating
they might finally might listen to employees&#8217; pleas to add
high walls to the cubicles. David thought, &#8216;What a stupid
idea&#8212;open space workplaces. Yeah, let&#8217;s just
collaborate, if listening to people blab about their kids is a sort
of collaboration you want. But you can&#8217;t think, get any work
done, certainly.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s been six months since
HR sent that memo and, no surprise, still no walls. I guess
they&#8217;re too busy revamping their corporate mission statement.
After all, it&#8217;s hard to keep justifying, &#8216;People are
our most important product,&#8217; when they keep announcing
layoffs to reduce headcount&#8212;oops&#8212;to rightsize the
organization.</p>

<p>&#8220;No sooner did David&#8217;s butt
hit his chair when a colleague came in: &#8216;Hey, David, the Big
Enchilada wants to see us in five minutes.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8216;That can&#8217;t be good.
Will I still have a job?&#8217;&#8221;</p>

<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s episode one of
<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>. If you guys seem to like it, email
me to let me know you like it&#8212;I may do more&#8212;but for
today, that is <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p>I want to thank my board operator and,
of course, all of you for listening and calling in. Please join me
again next Sunday at 11. I will do three-minute work-overs on
callers.</p>

<p>And, according to a just released report
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the fastest growing field, one
you may not have heard of&#8212;industrial and organizational
psychology, with jobs expected to jump 53% by 2022. I&#8217;ll talk
with the former president of the Society for Industrial and
Organizational Psychology Doug Reynolds.</p>

<p>Until next Sunday, this is Marty Nemko
reminding you: We find comfort among those who agree with us;
growth among those who don&#8217;t.</p>
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<p><strong>We Have an
OVERSupply of STEM and Law School Grads. Under-the-Radar
Careers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
was driving along the freeway, and I saw the umpteenth sign and
other marketing effort to try to get more young people to major in
STEM&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math. And I
remember having read an article quite recently that said that, in
fact, we already had an oversupply of STEM majors, which are hard
majors. And so, I did a little more research, and I found out that,
indeed, we have a tremendous oversupply of such
people.<br /></p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;oversupply and STEM
majors&#8221;, you will see study after study and report after
report&#8212;everything&#8212;from the Daily Kos, which just
recently a couple days ago did a report on it, to Slashdot, which
has a very long technical report on the oversupply. On the
conservative side, the Center for Immigration Studies did a long
report on it. And then, if you look also at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics, there is a gross oversupply of STEM
majors.<br /></p>
<p>Then why are politicians, especially,
and educators continuing to push this old, no longer accurate news?
Because it&#8217;s part of a message that says, &#8220;We need to
compete with China. We need to compete with India. From the bottom
of our economic and socioeconomic status people to the top, we can
compete.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>But, you know, we&#8217;re talking about
human lives here. Every single human being who
would not have otherwise majored in those hard
subjects&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;who
chose in the absence of the marketing campaign to get more STEM
majors, realized they are not that great in Calculus, not that
great in Physics in high school, let alone, what happens when they
get to college and they&#8217;ve got to do topography and
stochastic processes. We force them, manipulating them, using
techniques Madison Avenue uses to get us to buy cigarettes, to get
kids to major in them who would otherwise not major in those fields
because they realized they&#8217;re not their strength. It&#8217;s
crazy.<br /></p>
<p>If there aren&#8217;t even jobs in
vaunted STEM, where are the jobs?&#8221; That&#8217;s the focus of
today&#8217;s show.<br /></p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to talk about
under-the-radar jobs that even in an era in which good jobs are
ever declining, as ever more jobs are part-time, temp, automotive,
roboticized, and offshored, there are still at least in our
lifetimes&#8212;certainly for the next 10 to 25 years&#8212;pockets
of opportunity. And so, we will focus most of this show on where
those opportunities are.<br /></p>
<p>But, before I do that, I want to get the
negative out of the way&#8212;this is important. Many people who
are bright, the people who tend to listen to public radio, the
college educated, graduate degrees, or whatever, they&#8217;re
going to say, &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s either science, or it&#8217;s
law.&#8221; And yet, I have to tell you that there is a gross
oversupply of lawyers as any of you who know, who have tried to get
a law job now. So many lawyers are working as paralegals or project
part-time temp workers. The days of the white-shoe, fat-cat lawyer
are now relegated to the realm of Hollywood movies.<br /></p>
<p>Yes, if you graduate from Harvard Law
School, and you are very money-driven and willing to
work&#8212;have billed 2200 hours a year and sleep on your futon in
your office--es, there are jobs for you. But, remember, that is the
most rarified tier. Most people who went to law school went to
places like Golden Gate University, or McGeorge School of Law, in
Sacramento, or Cal Western, in Southern California. They
didn&#8217;t go to Stanford Law School or even Hastings Law School,
let alone Harvard Law School.<br /></p>
<p>I have a massive list of careers that
are growing. I want to read you a small section of an article that
came from one of the most authoritative sources you&#8217;re going
to find for lawyers: It&#8217;s the American Bar Association
Journal. It&#8217;s called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How
Long Will it Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221;
That&#8217;s the title, and I&#8217;m only going to read a section
of it for your planning purposes&#8212;roughly two
minutes.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For Andrea, a past decision to
ensure her future in law has left her in a stressed and distressful
present. Concerned over how it might affect her job prospects, she
would not allow the use of her real name. And there&#8217;s reason
for concern: She&#8217;s been laid off twice since her 2009 law
school graduation, including from a position where she earned just
$20 an hour at a small firm, practicing as a licensed attorney. For
the 29-year-old . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>And, by the way, think about how many
lawyers are 40, 50, 60, trying to find a job, and you know how it
is there&#8212;there&#8217;s a preference to younger
people.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For the 29-year-old, who has
supported herself since college, the financial repercussions of law
school may amount . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
Financial repercussions of law school&#8212;it almost seems
like a contradiction in terms. It should be the financial benefits,
and yet, here is the American Bar Association Journal saying,
&#8220;The financial repercussions of law school may amount to the
&#8220; worst investment of her life, despite a degree from a
second-tier school . . .&#8221;
<p>We&#8217;re not even
talking about a third-tier law school like a Cal Western or a
Golden Gate. Second tier law schools would be like UC Davis or
SUNY, the State University of New York; these are not bottom-tier
law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;And despite a degree from a
second-tier law school and a resume that boasts a position on law
review&#8221;&#8212;law review is the elite at that law
school&#8212;&#8220;and coveted a summer associate position.&#8221;
This was not a bottom of the barrel law graduate.<br /></p>
<p>Now, the article quotes her:
&#8220;&#8216;I deferred my loans because of economic hardship the
first time&#8217;, said Andrea, who borrowed nearly $110,000 to
finance her education. &#8216;After that&#8217;, she falters,
&#8216;They might be in forbearance . . . accruing interest . . . I
just don&#8217;t know.&#8217;<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Andrea&#8217;s situation is far
from unique. In 2010, 85% of law graduates from ABA accredited
schools boasted an average debt load of $98,500, according to data
collected from law schools by <em>U.S. News</em>. At 29 schools,
that amount exceeded $120,000. In contrast, only 68% of those
graduates reported employment in positions that require a
JD.&#8221;&#8212;that&#8217;s a Juris Doctor at law
degree&#8212;&#8220;Nine months after commencement, less than 51%
found employment in private law firm.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;The influx of so many law
graduates&#8212;44,258 in 2010 alone, according to the American Bar
Association&#8212;into a declining job market creates serious
repercussions that will reverberate for decades to
come.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>To those of you who are just joining us,
I&#8217;m reading an article from the American Bar Association
Journal called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How Long Will It
Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221; I&#8217;ve
been talking about where the jobs aren&#8217;t like the STEM
jobs&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;where
despite the incredible marketing hype, are in fact in gross
oversupply already, and the gross oversupply will likely continue.
I also wanted to talk about this law school oversupply, and then
we&#8217;re going to talk about where the jobs are. I&#8217;m just
going to finish this segment of the article.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Heavy loans now threaten to
consume the future earnings and livelihood of the nation&#8217;s
young lawyers. Yet, even as the legal market contracts, more than
87,900 potential candidates vied for 60,000 seats at the 200
ABA-approved law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Youthful over-optimism, bleak job
prospects for college grads, and the entry of several more
universities and for-profit businesses into the legal education
business are some of the root causes for the supply-and-demand
imbalance in entry-level lawyers.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Very few critics, however, have
studied the part played by the federal government through its
student loan policies in creating a law school bubble that may be
on the verge of bursting&#8212;one strikingly similar to the
mortgage crisis that cratered the economy in 2008.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Direct federal loans have become
the lifeblood of graduate education, and they shelter law schools
financially from the structural changes affecting the profession.
The bills are now coming due for many young lawyers, and their
inability to pay will likely bring the scrutiny of lawmakers
already moaning about government spending.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;As student groups continue to
lobby the federal government for increased transparency, the
lawmakers are bound to ask a very simple
question:&#8221;&#8212;they&#8217;re not, but they should;
that&#8217;s my editorial: &#8220;Why should the U.S. government,
through the Department of Education direct-lending program,
continue to make billions&#8221;&#8212;with a B&#8212;&#8220;of
dollars of loans to law students when structural changes in the
legal market&#8221;&#8212;that means decline in the number of jobs
that are available.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Why should they continue to make
billions of dollars of loans to law students when structural
changes in the legal market suggest that a large portion will lack
the earning power to repay those loans?&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a segment of that
wonderful article. But I wanted to make the case for why those of
you&#8212;yourselves or your family members or your
children&#8212;who are blindly acting as though it was still 1970
and say, &#8220;Oh, science and technology, I want to major in
that. I&#8217;ll be sure I get a job; oh, I&#8217;m not a science
person; I&#8217;m going to major in law school,&#8221; then major
and go to law school&#8212;are probably wrong, unless you&#8217;re
a superstar. Superstars can do whatever they want in any year--the
top few percent who can chose whatever they want. But the rest of
us mortals need to be more, well, realistic.<br /></p>
<p>And that takes me to the positive side
of the topic of today&#8217;s show: Where the actual jobs are for
mortals, especially those that are little known. I mean,
we&#8217;ve heard again and again, that there are jobs in nursing,
or there are jobs in accounting&#8212;but you&#8217;ve heard all
that before. So, I want to start by talking about, excerpting, some
ideas from an article from AOL called &#8220;<em>18 High-Paying
Careers that You&#8217;ve Probably Never Heard
of.</em>&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m well aware dear
listeners that you are there, and just after I offer a few of
these, I will go to the phones and invite you to call in. So,
instead of giving generic advice about where the jobs are, I can
help you come up with what makes sense for you to pursue and, more
importantly, the specifics of how to do it, because an idea is
nothing without a plan.<br /></p>
<p>But first, some high-paying careers
you&#8217;ve never heard, or at least thought of. These actually
came out of Reddit, which was then republished by
AOL.<br /></p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t think of being
air traffic controllers, but it pays a good living. An air traffic
controller makes $200,000 a year&#8212;so something under-the-radar
you don&#8217;t normally think of. We think doctor, lawyer, nurse,
teacher, social worker, non-profit activist; we don&#8217;t think
of air traffic controller.<br /></p>
<p>A variation on that&#8212;a tower
technician, who works in those towers, both at airports; and also,
apparently, in very tall buildings, there are technicians who work
on them.<br /></p>
<p>Skipping through to a few others that
are specifically non-science-oriented . . .<br /></p>
<p>Court stenographers&#8212;I used to
think that automated technology was going to replace the
stenographer; apparently, not. It&#8217;s a three-year program, but
if you&#8217;re proficient in grammar, if you have strong language
skills, if you have solid finger dexterity from, maybe, playing an
instrument or video games and you&#8217;re willing to work in a law
firm, it&#8217;s a fine career. You work from home a lot of the
time. You&#8217;re rarely starting before 10 AM. You make your own
schedule. And, you make a very good salary; $80,000, $100,000 is
not uncommon. Under-the-radar, people don&#8217;t think about
that.<br /></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what
else.<br /></p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s gross for many people,
but, unfortunately, one of the few things that are inevitable are
death and taxes, and most people cringe at the thought of work in
the funeral industry&#8212;and I do. I&#8217;ve read Jessica
Mitford&#8217;s old book about the death industry and how unsavory
and dishonest they often are. But there are a few moments when
human beings are more vulnerable when a family member dies. And
somebody who makes primary the ethics of being comforting and
helping people make wise not overly expensive decisions, at that
point, is a worthy occupation.<br /></p>
<p>If you can deal with it, it may even
help you to deal with death. I know some person who was very afraid
of death, and she ended up deciding to work in a hospice as a
volunteer, as a way of coping to it, of adapting to it or making
sense with it in some ways. So, maybe, even if you are afraid of
death, the funeral industry&#8212;done right&#8212;is extremely
ethical.<br /></p>
<p>Those are careers that are
under-the-radar, that are nonetheless viable, nonetheless ethical,
pay a good living, not offshore-able.<br /></p>
<p>And so now, I want to turn to you. I
have many, many more, and I will pepper the show with careers that
are likely not overcrowded, that pay well, that are ethical, that
are not oversupplied like the STEMs&#8212;science, technology,
engineering, management, or law. But I do now invite you to
call.<br /></p>
<p>You are listening to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. My mission in life is to help you and also to discuss
the micro societal issues about work. But today, it&#8217;s about
you, all about you. So, if you or someone you love is career stuck,
whether it be because you&#8217;re not sure what you want to be
when you grow up even if you&#8217;re already 60, or you are
already in your career and unhappy and wondering whether you should
change jobs, change careers, or you simply have any kind of
work-related problem; even in your business&#8212;I really like
helping people&#8212;or either thinking about starting a business
and have an idea they want to run by me&#8212;kind of like the
<em>Shark Tank</em> TV show but kinder. If you have any kind of
question related to your work life, I call them &#8220;three-minute
workovers&#8221;; sometimes they take ten; I don&#8217;t care. All
I care about is helping you.<br /></p>
<p>The phone number here at <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s 415-841-4134. And
while I&#8217;m waiting for the calls to come in, I have, as I
said, some more careers that are not STEM and are not law, and
they&#8217;re not likely to go away. And this was slated to be, I
think, the 40<sup>th</sup> fastest growing career that
doesn&#8217;t require a bachelor&#8217;s degree. I&#8217;ll be
talking about a few of those&#8212;one is called &#8220;purchasing
agent&#8221;.<br /></p>
<p>These are people who purchase machinery
and equipment, and tools, and part and supplies; basically online;
it could be from all over the world. Again,
under-the-radar&#8212;and many of them don&#8217;t even need a
college degree at all. Wages tend to be very good. Projected job
openings are good. Nobody thinks about being a purchasing
agent.<br /></p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve got a lot more, but
I&#8217;ll give the phone number one more time. If you or someone
you love is stuck and wants a new career idea, or you&#8217;ve got
the career idea and don&#8217;t know how to execute on it, or
you&#8217;re in a career and you&#8217;re unhappy, or you&#8217;re
in a business or thinking about a business and want to know what I
think about it, the phone number here for a three-minute work-over
on <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.<br /></p>
<p>And now, to the phones&#8212;welcome to
the show. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<strong>Caller 1:</strong> I&#8217;m 63 and
semi-retired, and I want to get into voice acting. I&#8217;ve
always liked&#8212;
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m going to stop you right there. Forget it. It
doesn&#8217;t exist; that&#8217;s a scam. There are countless
people who spend the $10,000 for the voice training program to
create their demo and whatever, and they never even come close to
making enough money to even pay back the cost of their course.
It&#8217;s a hobby because, right now, the field has changed
dramatically. Millions of people are like, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s
easy. I&#8217;ve got a nice voice. I&#8217;m going to go do
that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you know what happens?
Millions of people have their demos, and now, it&#8217;s all
online. There are websites that post jobs for voiceovers for
perhaps 50 bucks. You&#8217;ve got to submit your demo for free,
and then you&#8217;re competing with many applicants. The training
has become a bit of a scam, unless if you&#8217;re a famous actor.
If you are James Earl Jones, you can get all the voiceover work you
want. But if you&#8217;re somebody who&#8217;s a wannabe, who
starts, forget it, dude.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> All
right. But do you want me to help you come up with an
alternative?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> [laughs] No, it&#8217;s okay. I mean, that
was very informative. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
need to be straightforward. But do it for fun if you like. If you
like the idea of doing voiceover work, play, go; you can use the
microphone on your computer or whatever. Make some mp3 for the fun
of it. Frankly, that&#8217;s how I got in this radio show 25 years
ago. I just had a little home cassette recorder. My daughter had a
friend over, and I said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s play radio talk show
host.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I said to my daughter Amy,
&#8220;What do you want to talk about?&#8221;</p>
<p>She said, &#8220;Birth
order.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cool.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, I just turned on a 5-dollar
microphone, put it into an old fashion cassette deck, and said,
&#8220;Okay, tell me, are you first born?&#8221;</p>
<p>I just asked some common-sense
questions and made the recording. I sent it to KQED and KALW. And I
heard from KALW. They said, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re raw, but
you&#8217;re not too terrible,&#8221; and I got a show. So
you&#8217;ll never know&#8212;but start simple. Don&#8217;t spend
10 grand on a voiceover training program.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 1:</strong>
Thanks. You saved me a lot of time and money. I appreciate
it.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you. All right, all the lines are lighted up.
Let&#8217;s go back to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 2 hung up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong> Hi. I&#8217;m 53
years old. I&#8217;m looking for a new career. I&#8217;m in that
category where I just can&#8217;t decide what to do. Currently,
I&#8217;m looking at a program that&#8217;s in patient
navigation.</p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
You&#8217;re moving them from their beds, for the testing
room, for their MRIs&#8212;that kind of thing?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> No, like guiding them through the
healthcare system&#8212;whatever.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> It also overlaps with advocacy.
You&#8217;re more likely to hear it called, &#8220;patient
coordinator&#8221;. The field is supposed to grow. A lot of the
jobs are for RNs that want to change, and I&#8217;m not an
RN</p>
<p><strong>Marty:
H</strong>ere, I can be optimistic, unlike with the
previous caller. There is such demand for this, and the system is
going to get ever more complicated with Obamacare. There are
contradictory and overlapping rules&#8212;state regulations,
federal regulations, local regulations, Obamacare rules, insurance
company monsters that they often are. So the need for a navigator
will never be greater as the boomers age.</p>
<p>Sure, they&#8217;ll prefer RNs
because they know the ropes but it doesn&#8217;t mean there
won&#8217;t be jobs for non-RNs. Just choose the best certification
program and network your butt off while you&#8217;re in the program
to make connections. You work your butt off in fear that
you&#8217;re not going to be employable because you&#8217;re not an
RN. And I would bet on you. You&#8217;re at a right age; being
older is a plus here. A 27-year-old advocate is not going to be
seen as credible by the patient. Here is where age can be a
plus.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re sounding flat. If
you have the drive, if you&#8217;re willing to use the fear to
motivate you to do it the way I outlined, I would bet on you. Does
that make sense?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Yes, absolutely.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
can&#8217;t think of a more important job. When someone gets a
cancer diagnosis or diabetes . . . And now, they&#8217;ve got to
win their way through the system? Oh, my god! You are a guardian
angel. Have you researched the different programs that exist and
know which are good?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Well, the founder of the idea&#8212;or
whatever&#8212;he&#8217;s in New Jersey; I&#8217;m in California. I
don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m skeptical. I looked at it online. The
program&#8212;its ten modules. It takes months to do, and
it&#8217;s $1,000.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s not a lot. The ones that worry me are the ones
who charge $10,000&#8212;and they do. They are more likely to be
just in it for the money.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:
</strong>I talked to one woman
doing it. She went into her own business&#8212;which is most
common,&#8212;and she loved the program at Sonoma State. It&#8217;s
interactive. You&#8217;re in classes for six months, and they do
placement of everyone in an internship clinical . . .</p>
<p>
</span><strong><span>Marty:</strong>
Awesome! And that&#8217;s local. Why wouldn&#8217;t you do
that?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> I just, you know, need some
confidence-building.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s talk there.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Because my employment hasn&#8217;t been
good for the last . . .</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s move forward. There are plenty of people who
failed; I have failed many times in my life because I&#8217;m too
intense. I get fired for being too bold. It doesn&#8217;t make you
a loser.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, if
you were to be your best self and trust your best self, what would
you do differently in this next job to ensure that? You know, you
don&#8217;t have to be perfect, just good enough&#8212;that&#8217;s
all I ask. We need healthcare advocates&#8212;end of
story.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
What&#8217;s your first name?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Cherry.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Sherry. So, Sherry, what do you need to do this time in the
preparation, the training, and the way that you work, so that
you&#8217;re at least good?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, I think it would be wise to go to as many association
events.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Which do these you need to stay vigilant about? Your
work ethic&#8212;is it already great, or do you need to work
harder?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
It&#8217;s good.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
We&#8217;re going to keep going down the list&#8212;knowledge
of the science involved, studying, becoming good enough at the
science.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, that would be where I would gain strength because
it&#8217;s brand new, so it would be interesting to research and
talk to people. I mean, you could talk to anyone. You could meet
someone whose father had cancer or something, and talk about their
experience.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No,
what I mean is you may need to know a certain amount, for example,
about the science involved when somebody&#8217;s got
cancer&#8212;being able to be a good researcher to find out what
kind of cancer; who are the really best specialists? Where does the
insurance company turn you down? Doing that, you don&#8217;t have
to be a physicist to be a healthcare advocate. But do you think you
either have the existing knowledge or will be driven enough to get
knowledgeable enough about the particular condition that the person
has?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
I don&#8217;t have any aspect of it right now.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s making me a little nervous now. The key is
aggressive drive to be willing to fight the insurance company, to
fight to get an appointment for your client who desperately needs
an opinion from the expert. You need both the aggressiveness and
the internet research skills and knowledge of the insurance
company.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
And it&#8217;s working with the families of the
patients.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> The
compassion thing isn&#8217;t enough.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Their belief systems may not match your view or your opinion
on what they should do, and you have to be . . . I don&#8217;t
know. I don&#8217;t know.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
have to be a good communicator. You have to be a good
influencer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> As
I&#8217;m listening to you, I am getting a little nervous.
It&#8217;s a demanding job. It requires being very credible.
You&#8217;re probably going to be self-employed. And you
don&#8217;t feel entrepreneurial to me; you&#8217;re
hesitant.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m not. I want to get into a clinic, something
like that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m wondering whether you might be able to function as
an advocate for patients without being officially an
advocate.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
If you don&#8217;t know something, you can contact another
navigator. They work very collaboratively, even the ones in private
practice, they&#8217;re&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Even though you may find support, in the end you can&#8217;t
always be turning to support; you&#8217;re going to be like this
high-maintenance basket case. I&#8217;d encourage you, with a clear
eye, to look into it, to job shadow a couple of
people who do it, and then after you do that, ask yourself if, with
training, that you have the abilities to do this job at least
reasonably well. Have you done that already, or do you need to do
some job shadowing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m getting ready to do that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve got to do. Okay, I thank you
very much for calling <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Thank you. Bye.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, take care.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re listening to <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em>. Today, the show is all about you, especially if
you are trying to figure out what you should do, career-wise.
I&#8217;m talking about some under-the-radar
careers, but those are not necessarily applicable to you, and I
care to provide some guides that are applicable to you. So, for a
<em>three-minute workover</em>, for you or someone you love, the
phone number here at <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>&#8212;415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.</p>

<p>Before I go to the phones, like I said,
I want to pepper the show with some careers that are kind of
under-the-radar and that are not dying. And again, I&#8217;m
focusing for the moment on a couple of careers that don&#8217;t
even require a college degree. One is a claims adjuster. Insurance
companies are always looking for people to adjust claims, whether
they be healthcare claims or auto claims; or flood claims, now that
the drought is . . .</p>

<p>It&#8217;s always amazing, by the way.
The government always takes forever to act, so they&#8217;ve now
allocated $600 billion to drought relief as we&#8217;re being
deluged. And Southern California&#8217;s overwhelmed with water.
When I think about the last drought, and the brilliant government
took months before doing anything and then they decided what they
needed to do was build a pipe across the Richmond-San Rafael
Bridge, pumping water from Marin to the East Bay. Of course, the
pipe just sat there for years, doing nothing and costing a fortune.
And of course, the drought soon ended.</p>

<p>And then, I think of course about the
Napa trolley. In an attempt to get people in public transportation,
they built these gorgeous, beautiful cutesy trolleys to go from
Downtown Napa to various places in Napa&#8212;and it&#8217;s a
monument to government stupidity. They continued for years to run
empty, back and forth, spewing energy, [laughs] back and forth.
Nobody was ever on them, these gorgeous . . . I&#8217;m sure they
cost 200 grand each.</p>

<p>Government is just slow. Democracy is
wonderful, but it&#8217;s so slow that by the time they get
anything done, it&#8217;s diluted because of the democracy.
Everybody&#8217;s got to get their 2 cents in, and everybody
compromises. Or, it&#8217;s so late that it&#8217;s too
late.</p>

<p>Later, science has proven their
policy&#8217;s wrong, and the ethanol thing was a perfect example.
It took them seven years to decide ethanol was the answer, and then
the science found that they ruined engines, [laughs] but
they&#8217;re still subsidizing corn-growing for ethanol;
it&#8217;s a crazy world.</p>

<p>Anyway, let me go to the phones. All the
lines are lighted up. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. Hi, it&#8217;s you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Hi, I&#8217;m calling for a loved one.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, all right, so I have a son who is African-American, and
his father is Nigerian. And so, his father&#8212;engineer and
sciences, total, and what you just said.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
But the STEM thing&#8212;but he is totally passionate about
neuroscience . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Me,
too.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . and he is focused on . . . Neuroethics is what gets him
the most.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Neuroethics is great, but the people who get to work in
neuroethics are people who already have a long, distinguished
career as leading sciences at Harvard and the National Institutes
of Health. You don&#8217;t just say, &#8220;Geez, I&#8217;m really
concerned about people who are not neurotypical. They have Asperger
syndrome. And, why are they being prejudiced against in the work
place?&#8221; There aren&#8217;t jobs in that, unless you are . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
You&#8217;re preaching to the choir. But I&#8217;m also on
this cutting edge where I understand that it&#8217;s important for
someone to be passionate or like what they want to do but also with
some intelligence. Because when I started in my career, nobody knew
what I was doing. You know, 40 years ago, I went into the
environmental field. I&#8217;m African-American, and [they] even
said like, &#8220;What in the world are you doing?&#8221; But I
kind of have that kind of feel for it. But, on the other hand, we
need to figure out where to steer him, because he&#8217;s trying to
do the right things. I mean, he got an internship in San Francisco
last year, doing neuroethics kind of issues.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
old is he?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 5:</strong>
Right now, he&#8217;s 20.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
where is he at college?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s in Vassar, in New York.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
he&#8217;s majoring in a hard science or no?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, his major is in neuroscience, but the thing about Vassar,
which is really good, and also because of high school&#8212;he
writes well. So, I&#8217;m on the same wavelength as you. You
can&#8217;t write or read or articulate and speak in front of
people. I just don&#8217;t care what you do. You will always go
farther if you can have those skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, let&#8217;s slow down a little bit. He is majoring in a
neuroscience, right now.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
is he doing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Very good&#8212;he&#8217;s doing very well.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And how are his communication skills? I agree with
you&#8212;that unless you have great communication skills, if you
will get a job at all, you&#8217;re going to be staring at a
computer all day.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, he writes well and has a very good
personality.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, good. And, if you trusted your intuition, since you
say, &#8220;I&#8217;m preaching to the choir,&#8221; I&#8217;m
getting the sense that you feel he&#8217;s good in science, but
he&#8217;s not a rock star. Should he go and aim at getting a
typical master&#8217;s in public health and end up working for the
government? I see the percentage of GDP that the government is
increasing all the time, and the demographics and the way in voting
patterns are likely to change, we&#8217;ll see ever more democrats
being elected&#8212;and liberal democrats&#8212;and therefore, the
size of government will increase. Therefore, the jobs, in my
judgment, for people who are not superstar Harvard, genius rock
stars, who are mathematical modelers&#8212;will be in the public
sector. Should his aim be to get internships in public health
entities?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m going to have to
introduce to him because he has ideas that will probably cost us.
So tell him to take a public policy focus and get into a top notch
graduate school?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
To aim for a top notch graduate school.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, we live, unfortunately, in a brand name
society.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Oh, I know that. I&#8217;m not, you know . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Right, preaching the choir again. So, right, he&#8217;s at
Vassar, and, yes, trying to get into a first tier. Obviously, Johns
Hopkins is the leading one for public health.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes, but he&#8217;s in contact with, like, Yale, Johns
Hopkins.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right things&#8212;even
Oxford.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right thing . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
what&#8217;s the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . but he needs help.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
where is the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, I think you&#8217;re answering it. In terms of
neuroethics law, I agree with you. I don&#8217;t want to see him go
yet. I&#8217;m trying to find alternatives. Public health&#8212;if
I can try and talk to him and say, like, &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s
not just total nursing issue.&#8221;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Don&#8217;t talk to him&#8212;show him. Just go to the Johns
Hopkins website and the Yale website. Under public health degrees,
they&#8217;ll show you the range of things in public health. They
don&#8217;t do nursing. Those people there&#8212;they&#8217;re
policy makers; they&#8217;re activists; they craft legislations;
they&#8217;re lobbyists.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That&#8217;s where his heart is.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, well, there you go.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4</strong>
Are there any other suggestions besides public
health?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That is a launch pad. That opens door to many
careers.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
And somebody also said like maybe a
business degree and work for a pharmaceutical company, but
he&#8217;s like&#8212;because of ethical things&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No.
What I&#8217;m hearing you say about neuroethics&#8212;that&#8217;s
code for &#8220;I hate corporate America; I hate pharma.&#8221; So,
let&#8217;s not challenge that just yet. I&#8217;m not
anti-corporate, but just listening to you, and given that
you&#8217;re an environmentalist, given his focus on ethics, he
might be smarter rather than challenging that ethical framework
from which you operate to stay in that public sector for now. Does
that make sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes. I&#8217;m maneuvering myself to do something that can
really make a difference for a large amount of people.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
I have to say that I believe that African-Americans have an edge in
all of this, so I am more optimistic because he&#8217;s an
African-American, because they&#8217;re underrepresented, if you
will, in public policy. The government is very committed to more
racial equity, so I could be even more optimistic in his case. The
field now is oversupplied with white women. There&#8217;s a lot of
white women who want to make policy.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:
H</strong>e need to see where he&#8217;s going to fit
it into.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
invite you to go with him online, whether if he&#8217;s back in
Poughkeepsie, now. Go and spend some time on the phone with him,
both of you in front of the computer and look at the . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
The Johns Hopkins?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> . .
. Johns Hopkins and all those schools that have premier public
health programs. And look&#8212;they always have a career section:
&#8220;Here are some of what the graduates have done.&#8221; And
that will expand his options. And I&#8217;m a big believer in being
laser-focused, so I would encourage him to pick one thing that
really excites the hell out of him. Maybe he wants to be a lobbyist
for Kaiser&#8212;who knows?&#8212;or something else, but let him
develop a goal that&#8217;s specific. And then, let him choose his
term papers, his field work, his internships, his essay for
graduate school, which graduate schools he applied to. Based on
that specific goal, he could change. But having a specific focus is
motivating and maximizes his chances at getting hired. Makes
sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
I couldn&#8217;t pay for this advice, I&#8217;m telling
you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, good. You don&#8217;t have to.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That has been bothering me in my
gut.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Well, I love that you called, and I&#8217;m glad to
have helped. Feel free&#8212;I love it when callers call back. So,
it could be six months, two years, three years down the road when
things get clear and he&#8217;s made some progress, or whatever.
You&#8217;ll call me back, would you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Is there any way that this is streamed, so I can tell him to
listen to this program?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, if you go to my website MartyNemko.com, I have a link to
the KALW site, the actual page where it&#8217;s located.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, but that&#8217;s my problem. I&#8217;ll research that.
Don&#8217;t worry about it, but I appreciate it. Because I think if
he could hear it, himself, it will be good rather than me heckling
it.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good point.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, thanks for your time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> It
is my pleasure. Thank you for calling <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. All our lines are lighted up. I will go back to the
phones, but as I said, I wanted to pepper the show with some
careers that are not obvious, that are not oversupplied like STEM
and law.</p>

<p>Status is so important to people, but I
consider status the enemy of contentment. There are a ton of jobs
in the utility industry. This may gross you out
but&#8230; I want to thank Maureen Barry, a listener to the show,
who wrote to me the following: &#8220;I&#8216;m writing today
regarding my industry, the wastewater workforce. There&#8217;s a
growing need for more people at all levels&#8212;technicians,
plumbers, engineers, planners, project managers&#8212;you name
it.&#8221;</p>

<p>So, think about utilities. Here&#8217;s
another example. Your gas stove or drier, or
whatever, there is somebody who runs that gas plant. Not
somebody&#8212;there&#8217;s lots of people who control the systems
and do checks to make sure the gas plant of PG&#38;E are working
properly.</p>

<p>Nobody thinks about those kinds of jobs.
My job is to help you go under the radar. Okay, let&#8217;s go back
to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I help? Hello.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Great program. Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I wanted to comment on that set of career that may not
necessarily be under the radar but that are available with a great
deal of opportunities for people that are committed, talented, and
that have drive.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. Let&#8217;s hear it.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
And this is in the area of graphic design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Web design, global design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely. I manage a brand for a multi-billion,
multi-global corporation in the Valley and we are desperate for
qualified talent, not just talent that can put pixels together but
talent that understands the need to translate business objectives,
project objectives, utilizing their creativity, utilizing their
communication skills into effective design systems.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Fantastic.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
We are talking about 100K-150k a year, and we cannot find
people to deliver these skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Got
it. Now, help me understand this. I&#8217;ve had many graphic
design clients, and they are good at the graphic design&#8212;they
make pretty things&#8212;but they&#8217;re not business people. In
fact, there are many people who love design, and they hate business
and that&#8217;s why they do their art. How does one gain the
skills as well as the values that enable them to understand the
business side of things?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I understand what you say. They don&#8217;t necessarily need
to be business-savvy. They need to understand the business, the
product that this particular company is involved in. We are
involved in hardware and software or large enterprises. They
don&#8217;t need to understand the marketplace, what our
competitors are, the overall marketing strategies, but they do need
to understand what a piece of software does, so that they can
translate it visually, in a very compelling way, to a website
design, to a brochure, to a color palette. They need to understand
what that product does for the consumer and then utilize the skills
so the visualization, rapid prototype and production bring that to
creation.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And so, the ability to understand a complicated
product, is that just simply a matter of intelligence, or is it
something else? I&#8217;m trying to help my listeners who are
graphic designers. Is it intelligence, or is it more than
that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Intelligence&#8212;I think it also has to do with the ability
to utilize the creative process and ask the right questions to
identify the right solutions. I know that this is not tangible
enough.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s be specific. Take a piece of hardware. Give me an
example of a piece of hardware where you might need a graphic
designer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Storage.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great. So, big, solid-state hard disks drive that are
in an array of a hundreds terabytes&#8212;is that the kind of thing
you&#8217;re talking about?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. So, that&#8217;s the product. What do you expect this
graphic designer to be able to do regarding that
product?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
The product marketing team is going to come to the table to
us, the branding team, the branding and graphic design team, and
say, &#8220;Okay, I have this storage product that we need to
launch in three months, and here&#8217;s a long list of product
features and functionality.&#8221;&#8212;long, long. And I&#8217;ve
been in the industry for many, many years, and I still don&#8217;t
understand many of those line items on that list, but I will ask
questions about what makes this product unique.</p>

<p>Little by little, perhaps the concept of
extreme performance will come up. And, through some revisions and
through some harder interviews, extreme performance will be
continue to be a concept that bubbles up in the conversation. And
so, we will then put away the list of 20+ product features and
focus on performance. And then it is the job of the graphic
designer to come up with ideas that visualize extreme performance
but not in a vacuum, not just in any artistic way, but in a way
that makes sense for a hardware product, which means that the
visualization of it has to have very specific, back to a piece of
circuitry and metal, so that it doesn&#8217;t look like we are
talking about something soft and ephemeral.</p>

<p>And so, it is that. It&#8217;s that,
Marty. They&#8217;ll be able to ask questions that will put aside
the technical aspects of a product, focus on the benefits that the
market will receive by buying this product, and visualize in that
in a way that is appealing to the eye and engaging to the
brain.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
This is more just for curiosity: It seems like every product,
no matter how many features . . . And you&#8217;re right. The old
days of trying to market with features is stupid&#8212;it&#8217;s
always about benefits&#8212;but aren&#8217;t the benefits always
either better performance, better price, or better service? Does it
always come down to one of those three?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Perhaps, but then that is the job of the brand manager and
the product manager&#8212;to go even deeper and figure out, given
the competitive landscape in that particular product, what then to
highlight for that given period of time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> But
if there isn&#8217;t a clear, definable benefit&#8212;let&#8217;s
say, the storage system&#8212;of either performance, price, or
follow up service, then is the product maybe not worthy of being
introduced? Isn&#8217;t that really a good litmus
test?</p>

<p>And then, let&#8217;s say it is extreme
performance. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to get a visual, like
on the top of my head . . . If I were trying to show my
performance, that we had the lowest error rate of any hard disk
storage system, I might simply have a one-page ad that filled with
pixels that are all black, and only one&#8212;out of the ten
million pixels that are on that page&#8212;is red as a way of
instantly visualizing its outstanding low error rate. Should it be
more complicated than that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Well, Marty, you have to come work with me. It is as simple
as that, but it&#8217;s also as complicated as that. You would be
surprised to see how many graduates of the local and even national
graphic design schools are graduating without critical thinking
skills, critical problem solving skills, and instead of focusing
clearly on the technical aspects of the applications that we use to
do our work.</p>

<p>So, going back to your question, it is
about critical thinking. It is about intelligence; it is about
creative intelligence&#8212;translating complexity into simplicity,
product features and functionality into business solutions, and
doing all of that in the context of design, color, pattern,
typography, photography, illustration.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
are a fabulous caller. It has been a privilege to have you on the
show. I want to do something for you. If somebody who&#8217;s
listening to this show feels that they would do a good job for you,
do you want to give out the contact information so that they can
contact you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I will give out the contact information for the agency to
which I source talent.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, whatever.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I encourage people who are interested in this kind of work,
who have a passion for doing meaningful work, to look up Talent
Table&#8212;and that is the agency that I source my
talents.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
what&#8217;s your first name, if I can ask you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
My first name is Francisco.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Francisco, it has been a pleasure talking to you.
You&#8217;re anhonored member of the <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>
workforce. Thank you so much for calling the show.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
With pleasure, Marty.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, before I go to take another call, again, we&#8217;ve
been talking about under-the-radar careers. Here is something that
seems odd: I drive in San Francisco, and I see the cable car
conductors. You know, that&#8217;s kind of a fun job, for the right
person. It&#8217;s social. You&#8217;re out and about. It&#8217;s
not rocket science. It&#8217;s regular hours. And, in fact, in this
article that I&#8217;m drawing on here called &#8220;<em>40
High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>,&#8221; it&#8217;s listed as number 29&#8212;subway and
street car operators&#8212;but it&#8217;s not something most people
would think about.</p>

<p>Status is the enemy of contentment.
Please remember that some of the happiest people are not the ones
who are corporate lawyers; they have status, but they&#8217;re not
always so happy. I&#8217;m not a stupid person, and yet, if
I&#8217;m quietly asking myself, the jobs that I&#8217;ve been
happiest in my life&#8212;it&#8217;s career counselor, which is not
as prestigious as when I was a medical researcher through
Rockefeller University; and New York City cab driver, which is a
low-status job&#8212;yet I had a great time. So please don&#8217;t
let status overwhelm other factors, especially in this era where
status jobs are ever harder to come by.</p>

<p>Just a couple more examples . . . I want
to take one more phone call. These are, again, from the list of
<em>40 High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>.</p>

<p>Postmasters and mail
superintendents.</p>

<p>Power-line installers, whether it be for
telecommunications, for the evil Comcast; I do consider them evil.
Their pricing is outrageous, but they provide excellent service.
It&#8217;s just very, very expensive. They&#8217;ve essentially
driven out all competitors, so they have a monopoly&#8212;so I
don&#8217;t like them. But they do have a good product, and
they&#8217;re always hiring.</p>

<p>Transportation inspectors&#8212;One of
the sources of bioterrorism is our ports. Countless containers are
coming in. Those are jobs you don&#8217;t normally think about that
don&#8217;t require a college degree&#8212;very important&#8212;and
pay well.</p>

<p>MRI tech imaging&#8212;medical
technology imaging&#8212;you do need to have some science, but you
don&#8217;t need to be a rocket scientist. MRIs are now becoming
kind of pass&#233;. MEG scanners seem to be hot these days, which
have higher resolution and less radiation.</p>

<p>Those are great careers that don&#8217;t
necessarily require a college degree.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m going to stop there. Let me
see if I can take one more call; no, I&#8217;m not going to do
that.</p>

<p>I promised myself I wanted to do this
for you. I&#8217;m really privileged that AOL has asked me to write
a continuing saga about work for them. I&#8217;m calling it
&#8220;<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>&#8221;, and I thought I
would see if you guys like them. I&#8217;m going to read you the
first episode, as a way of ending today&#8217;s show. Let me just
give you a little background.</p>

<p>While it&#8217;s fiction, it attempts to
embed realities of today&#8217;s workplace plus my opinions and
musings and advice in all manners of things. It&#8217;s about a
family&#8217;s ups and downs. It&#8217;s computer geek David, his
music teacher wife Susan, and their active son Adam. I just thought
if I presented a career advice and workplace advice and life advice
in the context of a story, it might be more interesting.</p>

<p>Part one of <em>Days of Our Work
Lives</em> called &#8220;<em>David&#8217;s Saga</em>&#8221;;
Episode One is <em>&#8220;Open&#8221; Workspaces</em>.</p>

<p>&#8220;As usual, David Sapian awoke
grateful&#8212;grateful he&#8217;s well and that he has a decent
job.</p>

<p>&#8220;Although he works very full-time,
he dutifully helps his wife Susan get their 7-year-old son Adam
ready for school. Today, David tried to get Adam to take his own
cereal, but Adam likes being served so he threw a fit.</p>

<p>&#8220;David was grateful to finally
escape into his car. He even preferred sitting in gridlock to his
home&#8217;s morning madness&#8212;but gridlock raises his blood
pressure, too. He&#8217;s angry not at the drivers but at the darn
transportation planners for refusing to build more freeways,
so&#8212;a la slowly ratcheted-up torture&#8212;we&#8217;re forced
to sit in our cars and in ever more time-consuming and sardine mass
transit. David would rather sit in gridlock in the sanctuary of his
car.</p>

<p>&#8220;He arrived at the double-glass
doors. &#8216;It&#8217;s showtime,&#8217; he reminded himself. He
pasted his corporate-acceptable smile and made corporate-acceptable
greetings to co-workers as he strode to his cube. In corporate
America, especially if you&#8217;re 40+, you may not trudge; you
must stride. But not too fast&#8212;that would make you seem
insufficiently controlled, just a moderate stride, with good
posture: chin up, back straight, shoulders back, chest out. As
<em>Cosmo</em> founder Helen Gurley Brown said, &#8216;After 40, it
all comes down to posture.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;HR had sent an email indicating
they might finally might listen to employees&#8217; pleas to add
high walls to the cubicles. David thought, &#8216;What a stupid
idea&#8212;open space workplaces. Yeah, let&#8217;s just
collaborate, if listening to people blab about their kids is a sort
of collaboration you want. But you can&#8217;t think, get any work
done, certainly.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s been six months since
HR sent that memo and, no surprise, still no walls. I guess
they&#8217;re too busy revamping their corporate mission statement.
After all, it&#8217;s hard to keep justifying, &#8216;People are
our most important product,&#8217; when they keep announcing
layoffs to reduce headcount&#8212;oops&#8212;to rightsize the
organization.</p>

<p>&#8220;No sooner did David&#8217;s butt
hit his chair when a colleague came in: &#8216;Hey, David, the Big
Enchilada wants to see us in five minutes.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8216;That can&#8217;t be good.
Will I still have a job?&#8217;&#8221;</p>

<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s episode one of
<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>. If you guys seem to like it, email
me to let me know you like it&#8212;I may do more&#8212;but for
today, that is <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p>I want to thank my board operator and,
of course, all of you for listening and calling in. Please join me
again next Sunday at 11. I will do three-minute work-overs on
callers.</p>

<p>And, according to a just released report
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the fastest growing field, one
you may not have heard of&#8212;industrial and organizational
psychology, with jobs expected to jump 53% by 2022. I&#8217;ll talk
with the former president of the Society for Industrial and
Organizational Psychology Doug Reynolds.</p>

<p>Until next Sunday, this is Marty Nemko
reminding you: We find comfort among those who agree with us;
growth among those who don&#8217;t.</p>
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<p><strong>We Have an
OVERSupply of STEM and Law School Grads. Under-the-Radar
Careers.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
was driving along the freeway, and I saw the umpteenth sign and
other marketing effort to try to get more young people to major in
STEM&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math. And I
remember having read an article quite recently that said that, in
fact, we already had an oversupply of STEM majors, which are hard
majors. And so, I did a little more research, and I found out that,
indeed, we have a tremendous oversupply of such
people.<br /></p>
<p>If you Google &#8220;oversupply and STEM
majors&#8221;, you will see study after study and report after
report&#8212;everything&#8212;from the Daily Kos, which just
recently a couple days ago did a report on it, to Slashdot, which
has a very long technical report on the oversupply. On the
conservative side, the Center for Immigration Studies did a long
report on it. And then, if you look also at the Bureau of Labor
Statistics, there is a gross oversupply of STEM
majors.<br /></p>
<p>Then why are politicians, especially,
and educators continuing to push this old, no longer accurate news?
Because it&#8217;s part of a message that says, &#8220;We need to
compete with China. We need to compete with India. From the bottom
of our economic and socioeconomic status people to the top, we can
compete.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>But, you know, we&#8217;re talking about
human lives here. Every single human being who
would not have otherwise majored in those hard
subjects&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;who
chose in the absence of the marketing campaign to get more STEM
majors, realized they are not that great in Calculus, not that
great in Physics in high school, let alone, what happens when they
get to college and they&#8217;ve got to do topography and
stochastic processes. We force them, manipulating them, using
techniques Madison Avenue uses to get us to buy cigarettes, to get
kids to major in them who would otherwise not major in those fields
because they realized they&#8217;re not their strength. It&#8217;s
crazy.<br /></p>
<p>If there aren&#8217;t even jobs in
vaunted STEM, where are the jobs?&#8221; That&#8217;s the focus of
today&#8217;s show.<br /></p>
<p>We&#8217;re going to talk about
under-the-radar jobs that even in an era in which good jobs are
ever declining, as ever more jobs are part-time, temp, automotive,
roboticized, and offshored, there are still at least in our
lifetimes&#8212;certainly for the next 10 to 25 years&#8212;pockets
of opportunity. And so, we will focus most of this show on where
those opportunities are.<br /></p>
<p>But, before I do that, I want to get the
negative out of the way&#8212;this is important. Many people who
are bright, the people who tend to listen to public radio, the
college educated, graduate degrees, or whatever, they&#8217;re
going to say, &#8220;Well, it&#8217;s either science, or it&#8217;s
law.&#8221; And yet, I have to tell you that there is a gross
oversupply of lawyers as any of you who know, who have tried to get
a law job now. So many lawyers are working as paralegals or project
part-time temp workers. The days of the white-shoe, fat-cat lawyer
are now relegated to the realm of Hollywood movies.<br /></p>
<p>Yes, if you graduate from Harvard Law
School, and you are very money-driven and willing to
work&#8212;have billed 2200 hours a year and sleep on your futon in
your office--es, there are jobs for you. But, remember, that is the
most rarified tier. Most people who went to law school went to
places like Golden Gate University, or McGeorge School of Law, in
Sacramento, or Cal Western, in Southern California. They
didn&#8217;t go to Stanford Law School or even Hastings Law School,
let alone Harvard Law School.<br /></p>
<p>I have a massive list of careers that
are growing. I want to read you a small section of an article that
came from one of the most authoritative sources you&#8217;re going
to find for lawyers: It&#8217;s the American Bar Association
Journal. It&#8217;s called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How
Long Will it Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221;
That&#8217;s the title, and I&#8217;m only going to read a section
of it for your planning purposes&#8212;roughly two
minutes.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For Andrea, a past decision to
ensure her future in law has left her in a stressed and distressful
present. Concerned over how it might affect her job prospects, she
would not allow the use of her real name. And there&#8217;s reason
for concern: She&#8217;s been laid off twice since her 2009 law
school graduation, including from a position where she earned just
$20 an hour at a small firm, practicing as a licensed attorney. For
the 29-year-old . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>And, by the way, think about how many
lawyers are 40, 50, 60, trying to find a job, and you know how it
is there&#8212;there&#8217;s a preference to younger
people.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;For the 29-year-old, who has
supported herself since college, the financial repercussions of law
school may amount . . .&#8221;<br /></p>
Financial repercussions of law school&#8212;it almost seems
like a contradiction in terms. It should be the financial benefits,
and yet, here is the American Bar Association Journal saying,
&#8220;The financial repercussions of law school may amount to the
&#8220; worst investment of her life, despite a degree from a
second-tier school . . .&#8221;
<p>We&#8217;re not even
talking about a third-tier law school like a Cal Western or a
Golden Gate. Second tier law schools would be like UC Davis or
SUNY, the State University of New York; these are not bottom-tier
law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;And despite a degree from a
second-tier law school and a resume that boasts a position on law
review&#8221;&#8212;law review is the elite at that law
school&#8212;&#8220;and coveted a summer associate position.&#8221;
This was not a bottom of the barrel law graduate.<br /></p>
<p>Now, the article quotes her:
&#8220;&#8216;I deferred my loans because of economic hardship the
first time&#8217;, said Andrea, who borrowed nearly $110,000 to
finance her education. &#8216;After that&#8217;, she falters,
&#8216;They might be in forbearance . . . accruing interest . . . I
just don&#8217;t know.&#8217;<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Andrea&#8217;s situation is far
from unique. In 2010, 85% of law graduates from ABA accredited
schools boasted an average debt load of $98,500, according to data
collected from law schools by <em>U.S. News</em>. At 29 schools,
that amount exceeded $120,000. In contrast, only 68% of those
graduates reported employment in positions that require a
JD.&#8221;&#8212;that&#8217;s a Juris Doctor at law
degree&#8212;&#8220;Nine months after commencement, less than 51%
found employment in private law firm.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;The influx of so many law
graduates&#8212;44,258 in 2010 alone, according to the American Bar
Association&#8212;into a declining job market creates serious
repercussions that will reverberate for decades to
come.&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>To those of you who are just joining us,
I&#8217;m reading an article from the American Bar Association
Journal called &#8220;<em>The Law School Bubble: How Long Will It
Last if Law Grads Can&#8217;t Pay Bills?</em>&#8221; I&#8217;ve
been talking about where the jobs aren&#8217;t like the STEM
jobs&#8212;science, technology, engineering, and math&#8212;where
despite the incredible marketing hype, are in fact in gross
oversupply already, and the gross oversupply will likely continue.
I also wanted to talk about this law school oversupply, and then
we&#8217;re going to talk about where the jobs are. I&#8217;m just
going to finish this segment of the article.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Heavy loans now threaten to
consume the future earnings and livelihood of the nation&#8217;s
young lawyers. Yet, even as the legal market contracts, more than
87,900 potential candidates vied for 60,000 seats at the 200
ABA-approved law schools.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Youthful over-optimism, bleak job
prospects for college grads, and the entry of several more
universities and for-profit businesses into the legal education
business are some of the root causes for the supply-and-demand
imbalance in entry-level lawyers.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Very few critics, however, have
studied the part played by the federal government through its
student loan policies in creating a law school bubble that may be
on the verge of bursting&#8212;one strikingly similar to the
mortgage crisis that cratered the economy in 2008.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Direct federal loans have become
the lifeblood of graduate education, and they shelter law schools
financially from the structural changes affecting the profession.
The bills are now coming due for many young lawyers, and their
inability to pay will likely bring the scrutiny of lawmakers
already moaning about government spending.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;As student groups continue to
lobby the federal government for increased transparency, the
lawmakers are bound to ask a very simple
question:&#8221;&#8212;they&#8217;re not, but they should;
that&#8217;s my editorial: &#8220;Why should the U.S. government,
through the Department of Education direct-lending program,
continue to make billions&#8221;&#8212;with a B&#8212;&#8220;of
dollars of loans to law students when structural changes in the
legal market&#8221;&#8212;that means decline in the number of jobs
that are available.<br /></p>
<p>&#8220;Why should they continue to make
billions of dollars of loans to law students when structural
changes in the legal market suggest that a large portion will lack
the earning power to repay those loans?&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>That&#8217;s just a segment of that
wonderful article. But I wanted to make the case for why those of
you&#8212;yourselves or your family members or your
children&#8212;who are blindly acting as though it was still 1970
and say, &#8220;Oh, science and technology, I want to major in
that. I&#8217;ll be sure I get a job; oh, I&#8217;m not a science
person; I&#8217;m going to major in law school,&#8221; then major
and go to law school&#8212;are probably wrong, unless you&#8217;re
a superstar. Superstars can do whatever they want in any year--the
top few percent who can chose whatever they want. But the rest of
us mortals need to be more, well, realistic.<br /></p>
<p>And that takes me to the positive side
of the topic of today&#8217;s show: Where the actual jobs are for
mortals, especially those that are little known. I mean,
we&#8217;ve heard again and again, that there are jobs in nursing,
or there are jobs in accounting&#8212;but you&#8217;ve heard all
that before. So, I want to start by talking about, excerpting, some
ideas from an article from AOL called &#8220;<em>18 High-Paying
Careers that You&#8217;ve Probably Never Heard
of.</em>&#8221;<br /></p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m well aware dear
listeners that you are there, and just after I offer a few of
these, I will go to the phones and invite you to call in. So,
instead of giving generic advice about where the jobs are, I can
help you come up with what makes sense for you to pursue and, more
importantly, the specifics of how to do it, because an idea is
nothing without a plan.<br /></p>
<p>But first, some high-paying careers
you&#8217;ve never heard, or at least thought of. These actually
came out of Reddit, which was then republished by
AOL.<br /></p>
<p>Most people don&#8217;t think of being
air traffic controllers, but it pays a good living. An air traffic
controller makes $200,000 a year&#8212;so something under-the-radar
you don&#8217;t normally think of. We think doctor, lawyer, nurse,
teacher, social worker, non-profit activist; we don&#8217;t think
of air traffic controller.<br /></p>
<p>A variation on that&#8212;a tower
technician, who works in those towers, both at airports; and also,
apparently, in very tall buildings, there are technicians who work
on them.<br /></p>
<p>Skipping through to a few others that
are specifically non-science-oriented . . .<br /></p>
<p>Court stenographers&#8212;I used to
think that automated technology was going to replace the
stenographer; apparently, not. It&#8217;s a three-year program, but
if you&#8217;re proficient in grammar, if you have strong language
skills, if you have solid finger dexterity from, maybe, playing an
instrument or video games and you&#8217;re willing to work in a law
firm, it&#8217;s a fine career. You work from home a lot of the
time. You&#8217;re rarely starting before 10 AM. You make your own
schedule. And, you make a very good salary; $80,000, $100,000 is
not uncommon. Under-the-radar, people don&#8217;t think about
that.<br /></p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see what
else.<br /></p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s gross for many people,
but, unfortunately, one of the few things that are inevitable are
death and taxes, and most people cringe at the thought of work in
the funeral industry&#8212;and I do. I&#8217;ve read Jessica
Mitford&#8217;s old book about the death industry and how unsavory
and dishonest they often are. But there are a few moments when
human beings are more vulnerable when a family member dies. And
somebody who makes primary the ethics of being comforting and
helping people make wise not overly expensive decisions, at that
point, is a worthy occupation.<br /></p>
<p>If you can deal with it, it may even
help you to deal with death. I know some person who was very afraid
of death, and she ended up deciding to work in a hospice as a
volunteer, as a way of coping to it, of adapting to it or making
sense with it in some ways. So, maybe, even if you are afraid of
death, the funeral industry&#8212;done right&#8212;is extremely
ethical.<br /></p>
<p>Those are careers that are
under-the-radar, that are nonetheless viable, nonetheless ethical,
pay a good living, not offshore-able.<br /></p>
<p>And so now, I want to turn to you. I
have many, many more, and I will pepper the show with careers that
are likely not overcrowded, that pay well, that are ethical, that
are not oversupplied like the STEMs&#8212;science, technology,
engineering, management, or law. But I do now invite you to
call.<br /></p>
<p>You are listening to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. My mission in life is to help you and also to discuss
the micro societal issues about work. But today, it&#8217;s about
you, all about you. So, if you or someone you love is career stuck,
whether it be because you&#8217;re not sure what you want to be
when you grow up even if you&#8217;re already 60, or you are
already in your career and unhappy and wondering whether you should
change jobs, change careers, or you simply have any kind of
work-related problem; even in your business&#8212;I really like
helping people&#8212;or either thinking about starting a business
and have an idea they want to run by me&#8212;kind of like the
<em>Shark Tank</em> TV show but kinder. If you have any kind of
question related to your work life, I call them &#8220;three-minute
workovers&#8221;; sometimes they take ten; I don&#8217;t care. All
I care about is helping you.<br /></p>
<p>The phone number here at <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s 415-841-4134. And
while I&#8217;m waiting for the calls to come in, I have, as I
said, some more careers that are not STEM and are not law, and
they&#8217;re not likely to go away. And this was slated to be, I
think, the 40<sup>th</sup> fastest growing career that
doesn&#8217;t require a bachelor&#8217;s degree. I&#8217;ll be
talking about a few of those&#8212;one is called &#8220;purchasing
agent&#8221;.<br /></p>
<p>These are people who purchase machinery
and equipment, and tools, and part and supplies; basically online;
it could be from all over the world. Again,
under-the-radar&#8212;and many of them don&#8217;t even need a
college degree at all. Wages tend to be very good. Projected job
openings are good. Nobody thinks about being a purchasing
agent.<br /></p>
<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve got a lot more, but
I&#8217;ll give the phone number one more time. If you or someone
you love is stuck and wants a new career idea, or you&#8217;ve got
the career idea and don&#8217;t know how to execute on it, or
you&#8217;re in a career and you&#8217;re unhappy, or you&#8217;re
in a business or thinking about a business and want to know what I
think about it, the phone number here for a three-minute work-over
on <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em> is 415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.<br /></p>
<p>And now, to the phones&#8212;welcome to
the show. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<strong>Caller 1:</strong> I&#8217;m 63 and
semi-retired, and I want to get into voice acting. I&#8217;ve
always liked&#8212;
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m going to stop you right there. Forget it. It
doesn&#8217;t exist; that&#8217;s a scam. There are countless
people who spend the $10,000 for the voice training program to
create their demo and whatever, and they never even come close to
making enough money to even pay back the cost of their course.
It&#8217;s a hobby because, right now, the field has changed
dramatically. Millions of people are like, &#8220;Oh, it&#8217;s
easy. I&#8217;ve got a nice voice. I&#8217;m going to go do
that.&#8221;</p>
<p>And you know what happens?
Millions of people have their demos, and now, it&#8217;s all
online. There are websites that post jobs for voiceovers for
perhaps 50 bucks. You&#8217;ve got to submit your demo for free,
and then you&#8217;re competing with many applicants. The training
has become a bit of a scam, unless if you&#8217;re a famous actor.
If you are James Earl Jones, you can get all the voiceover work you
want. But if you&#8217;re somebody who&#8217;s a wannabe, who
starts, forget it, dude.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> Thanks, buddy. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> All
right. But do you want me to help you come up with an
alternative?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
1:</strong> [laughs] No, it&#8217;s okay. I mean, that
was very informative. I appreciate it.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
need to be straightforward. But do it for fun if you like. If you
like the idea of doing voiceover work, play, go; you can use the
microphone on your computer or whatever. Make some mp3 for the fun
of it. Frankly, that&#8217;s how I got in this radio show 25 years
ago. I just had a little home cassette recorder. My daughter had a
friend over, and I said, &#8220;Let&#8217;s play radio talk show
host.&#8221;</p>
<p>And I said to my daughter Amy,
&#8220;What do you want to talk about?&#8221;</p>
<p>She said, &#8220;Birth
order.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;Cool.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, I just turned on a 5-dollar
microphone, put it into an old fashion cassette deck, and said,
&#8220;Okay, tell me, are you first born?&#8221;</p>
<p>I just asked some common-sense
questions and made the recording. I sent it to KQED and KALW. And I
heard from KALW. They said, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re raw, but
you&#8217;re not too terrible,&#8221; and I got a show. So
you&#8217;ll never know&#8212;but start simple. Don&#8217;t spend
10 grand on a voiceover training program.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 1:</strong>
Thanks. You saved me a lot of time and money. I appreciate
it.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you. All right, all the lines are lighted up.
Let&#8217;s go back to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I
help?<br /></p>
<p><strong>Caller 2 hung up.</strong></p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong> Hi. I&#8217;m 53
years old. I&#8217;m looking for a new career. I&#8217;m in that
category where I just can&#8217;t decide what to do. Currently,
I&#8217;m looking at a program that&#8217;s in patient
navigation.</p>
<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
You&#8217;re moving them from their beds, for the testing
room, for their MRIs&#8212;that kind of thing?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> No, like guiding them through the
healthcare system&#8212;whatever.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> It also overlaps with advocacy.
You&#8217;re more likely to hear it called, &#8220;patient
coordinator&#8221;. The field is supposed to grow. A lot of the
jobs are for RNs that want to change, and I&#8217;m not an
RN</p>
<p><strong>Marty:
H</strong>ere, I can be optimistic, unlike with the
previous caller. There is such demand for this, and the system is
going to get ever more complicated with Obamacare. There are
contradictory and overlapping rules&#8212;state regulations,
federal regulations, local regulations, Obamacare rules, insurance
company monsters that they often are. So the need for a navigator
will never be greater as the boomers age.</p>
<p>Sure, they&#8217;ll prefer RNs
because they know the ropes but it doesn&#8217;t mean there
won&#8217;t be jobs for non-RNs. Just choose the best certification
program and network your butt off while you&#8217;re in the program
to make connections. You work your butt off in fear that
you&#8217;re not going to be employable because you&#8217;re not an
RN. And I would bet on you. You&#8217;re at a right age; being
older is a plus here. A 27-year-old advocate is not going to be
seen as credible by the patient. Here is where age can be a
plus.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re sounding flat. If
you have the drive, if you&#8217;re willing to use the fear to
motivate you to do it the way I outlined, I would bet on you. Does
that make sense?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Yes, absolutely.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong> I
can&#8217;t think of a more important job. When someone gets a
cancer diagnosis or diabetes . . . And now, they&#8217;ve got to
win their way through the system? Oh, my god! You are a guardian
angel. Have you researched the different programs that exist and
know which are good?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Well, the founder of the idea&#8212;or
whatever&#8212;he&#8217;s in New Jersey; I&#8217;m in California. I
don&#8217;t know. I&#8217;m skeptical. I looked at it online. The
program&#8212;its ten modules. It takes months to do, and
it&#8217;s $1,000.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s not a lot. The ones that worry me are the ones
who charge $10,000&#8212;and they do. They are more likely to be
just in it for the money.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:
</strong>I talked to one woman
doing it. She went into her own business&#8212;which is most
common,&#8212;and she loved the program at Sonoma State. It&#8217;s
interactive. You&#8217;re in classes for six months, and they do
placement of everyone in an internship clinical . . .</p>
<p>
</span><strong><span>Marty:</strong>
Awesome! And that&#8217;s local. Why wouldn&#8217;t you do
that?</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> I just, you know, need some
confidence-building.</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s talk there.</p>
<p><strong>Caller
3:</strong> Because my employment hasn&#8217;t been
good for the last . . .</p>
<p>
<strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s move forward. There are plenty of people who
failed; I have failed many times in my life because I&#8217;m too
intense. I get fired for being too bold. It doesn&#8217;t make you
a loser.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see, if
you were to be your best self and trust your best self, what would
you do differently in this next job to ensure that? You know, you
don&#8217;t have to be perfect, just good enough&#8212;that&#8217;s
all I ask. We need healthcare advocates&#8212;end of
story.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
What&#8217;s your first name?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Cherry.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Sherry.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Sherry. So, Sherry, what do you need to do this time in the
preparation, the training, and the way that you work, so that
you&#8217;re at least good?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, I think it would be wise to go to as many association
events.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Which do these you need to stay vigilant about? Your
work ethic&#8212;is it already great, or do you need to work
harder?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
It&#8217;s good.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
We&#8217;re going to keep going down the list&#8212;knowledge
of the science involved, studying, becoming good enough at the
science.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Well, that would be where I would gain strength because
it&#8217;s brand new, so it would be interesting to research and
talk to people. I mean, you could talk to anyone. You could meet
someone whose father had cancer or something, and talk about their
experience.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No,
what I mean is you may need to know a certain amount, for example,
about the science involved when somebody&#8217;s got
cancer&#8212;being able to be a good researcher to find out what
kind of cancer; who are the really best specialists? Where does the
insurance company turn you down? Doing that, you don&#8217;t have
to be a physicist to be a healthcare advocate. But do you think you
either have the existing knowledge or will be driven enough to get
knowledgeable enough about the particular condition that the person
has?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
I don&#8217;t have any aspect of it right now.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s making me a little nervous now. The key is
aggressive drive to be willing to fight the insurance company, to
fight to get an appointment for your client who desperately needs
an opinion from the expert. You need both the aggressiveness and
the internet research skills and knowledge of the insurance
company.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
And it&#8217;s working with the families of the
patients.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> The
compassion thing isn&#8217;t enough.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Their belief systems may not match your view or your opinion
on what they should do, and you have to be . . . I don&#8217;t
know. I don&#8217;t know.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
have to be a good communicator. You have to be a good
influencer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> As
I&#8217;m listening to you, I am getting a little nervous.
It&#8217;s a demanding job. It requires being very credible.
You&#8217;re probably going to be self-employed. And you
don&#8217;t feel entrepreneurial to me; you&#8217;re
hesitant.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m not. I want to get into a clinic, something
like that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
I&#8217;m wondering whether you might be able to function as
an advocate for patients without being officially an
advocate.</p>
<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
If you don&#8217;t know something, you can contact another
navigator. They work very collaboratively, even the ones in private
practice, they&#8217;re&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Even though you may find support, in the end you can&#8217;t
always be turning to support; you&#8217;re going to be like this
high-maintenance basket case. I&#8217;d encourage you, with a clear
eye, to look into it, to job shadow a couple of
people who do it, and then after you do that, ask yourself if, with
training, that you have the abilities to do this job at least
reasonably well. Have you done that already, or do you need to do
some job shadowing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
No, I&#8217;m getting ready to do that.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That&#8217;s what you&#8217;ve got to do. Okay, I thank you
very much for calling <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 3:</strong>
Thank you. Bye.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, take care.</p>

<p>You&#8217;re listening to <em>Work with
Marty Nemko</em>. Today, the show is all about you, especially if
you are trying to figure out what you should do, career-wise.
I&#8217;m talking about some under-the-radar
careers, but those are not necessarily applicable to you, and I
care to provide some guides that are applicable to you. So, for a
<em>three-minute workover</em>, for you or someone you love, the
phone number here at <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>&#8212;415-841-4134; that&#8217;s
415-841-4134.</p>

<p>Before I go to the phones, like I said,
I want to pepper the show with some careers that are kind of
under-the-radar and that are not dying. And again, I&#8217;m
focusing for the moment on a couple of careers that don&#8217;t
even require a college degree. One is a claims adjuster. Insurance
companies are always looking for people to adjust claims, whether
they be healthcare claims or auto claims; or flood claims, now that
the drought is . . .</p>

<p>It&#8217;s always amazing, by the way.
The government always takes forever to act, so they&#8217;ve now
allocated $600 billion to drought relief as we&#8217;re being
deluged. And Southern California&#8217;s overwhelmed with water.
When I think about the last drought, and the brilliant government
took months before doing anything and then they decided what they
needed to do was build a pipe across the Richmond-San Rafael
Bridge, pumping water from Marin to the East Bay. Of course, the
pipe just sat there for years, doing nothing and costing a fortune.
And of course, the drought soon ended.</p>

<p>And then, I think of course about the
Napa trolley. In an attempt to get people in public transportation,
they built these gorgeous, beautiful cutesy trolleys to go from
Downtown Napa to various places in Napa&#8212;and it&#8217;s a
monument to government stupidity. They continued for years to run
empty, back and forth, spewing energy, [laughs] back and forth.
Nobody was ever on them, these gorgeous . . . I&#8217;m sure they
cost 200 grand each.</p>

<p>Government is just slow. Democracy is
wonderful, but it&#8217;s so slow that by the time they get
anything done, it&#8217;s diluted because of the democracy.
Everybody&#8217;s got to get their 2 cents in, and everybody
compromises. Or, it&#8217;s so late that it&#8217;s too
late.</p>

<p>Later, science has proven their
policy&#8217;s wrong, and the ethanol thing was a perfect example.
It took them seven years to decide ethanol was the answer, and then
the science found that they ruined engines, [laughs] but
they&#8217;re still subsidizing corn-growing for ethanol;
it&#8217;s a crazy world.</p>

<p>Anyway, let me go to the phones. All the
lines are lighted up. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. Hi, it&#8217;s you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Hi, I&#8217;m calling for a loved one.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, all right, so I have a son who is African-American, and
his father is Nigerian. And so, his father&#8212;engineer and
sciences, total, and what you just said.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
But the STEM thing&#8212;but he is totally passionate about
neuroscience . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Me,
too.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . and he is focused on . . . Neuroethics is what gets him
the most.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Neuroethics is great, but the people who get to work in
neuroethics are people who already have a long, distinguished
career as leading sciences at Harvard and the National Institutes
of Health. You don&#8217;t just say, &#8220;Geez, I&#8217;m really
concerned about people who are not neurotypical. They have Asperger
syndrome. And, why are they being prejudiced against in the work
place?&#8221; There aren&#8217;t jobs in that, unless you are . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
You&#8217;re preaching to the choir. But I&#8217;m also on
this cutting edge where I understand that it&#8217;s important for
someone to be passionate or like what they want to do but also with
some intelligence. Because when I started in my career, nobody knew
what I was doing. You know, 40 years ago, I went into the
environmental field. I&#8217;m African-American, and [they] even
said like, &#8220;What in the world are you doing?&#8221; But I
kind of have that kind of feel for it. But, on the other hand, we
need to figure out where to steer him, because he&#8217;s trying to
do the right things. I mean, he got an internship in San Francisco
last year, doing neuroethics kind of issues.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
old is he?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 5:</strong>
Right now, he&#8217;s 20.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
where is he at college?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s in Vassar, in New York.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
he&#8217;s majoring in a hard science or no?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, his major is in neuroscience, but the thing about Vassar,
which is really good, and also because of high school&#8212;he
writes well. So, I&#8217;m on the same wavelength as you. You
can&#8217;t write or read or articulate and speak in front of
people. I just don&#8217;t care what you do. You will always go
farther if you can have those skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, let&#8217;s slow down a little bit. He is majoring in a
neuroscience, right now.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> How
is he doing?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Very good&#8212;he&#8217;s doing very well.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And how are his communication skills? I agree with
you&#8212;that unless you have great communication skills, if you
will get a job at all, you&#8217;re going to be staring at a
computer all day.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
No, he writes well and has a very good
personality.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, good. And, if you trusted your intuition, since you
say, &#8220;I&#8217;m preaching to the choir,&#8221; I&#8217;m
getting the sense that you feel he&#8217;s good in science, but
he&#8217;s not a rock star. Should he go and aim at getting a
typical master&#8217;s in public health and end up working for the
government? I see the percentage of GDP that the government is
increasing all the time, and the demographics and the way in voting
patterns are likely to change, we&#8217;ll see ever more democrats
being elected&#8212;and liberal democrats&#8212;and therefore, the
size of government will increase. Therefore, the jobs, in my
judgment, for people who are not superstar Harvard, genius rock
stars, who are mathematical modelers&#8212;will be in the public
sector. Should his aim be to get internships in public health
entities?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, that&#8217;s something I&#8217;m going to have to
introduce to him because he has ideas that will probably cost us.
So tell him to take a public policy focus and get into a top notch
graduate school?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
To aim for a top notch graduate school.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, we live, unfortunately, in a brand name
society.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Oh, I know that. I&#8217;m not, you know . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Right, preaching the choir again. So, right, he&#8217;s at
Vassar, and, yes, trying to get into a first tier. Obviously, Johns
Hopkins is the leading one for public health.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes, but he&#8217;s in contact with, like, Yale, Johns
Hopkins.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right things&#8212;even
Oxford.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
He&#8217;s trying to do the right thing . . .</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
what&#8217;s the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
. . . but he needs help.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> So,
where is the question?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, I think you&#8217;re answering it. In terms of
neuroethics law, I agree with you. I don&#8217;t want to see him go
yet. I&#8217;m trying to find alternatives. Public health&#8212;if
I can try and talk to him and say, like, &#8220;Look, it&#8217;s
not just total nursing issue.&#8221;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Don&#8217;t talk to him&#8212;show him. Just go to the Johns
Hopkins website and the Yale website. Under public health degrees,
they&#8217;ll show you the range of things in public health. They
don&#8217;t do nursing. Those people there&#8212;they&#8217;re
policy makers; they&#8217;re activists; they craft legislations;
they&#8217;re lobbyists.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That&#8217;s where his heart is.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, well, there you go.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4</strong>
Are there any other suggestions besides public
health?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
That is a launch pad. That opens door to many
careers.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
And somebody also said like maybe a
business degree and work for a pharmaceutical company, but
he&#8217;s like&#8212;because of ethical things&#8212;</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> No.
What I&#8217;m hearing you say about neuroethics&#8212;that&#8217;s
code for &#8220;I hate corporate America; I hate pharma.&#8221; So,
let&#8217;s not challenge that just yet. I&#8217;m not
anti-corporate, but just listening to you, and given that
you&#8217;re an environmentalist, given his focus on ethics, he
might be smarter rather than challenging that ethical framework
from which you operate to stay in that public sector for now. Does
that make sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Yes. I&#8217;m maneuvering myself to do something that can
really make a difference for a large amount of people.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
I have to say that I believe that African-Americans have an edge in
all of this, so I am more optimistic because he&#8217;s an
African-American, because they&#8217;re underrepresented, if you
will, in public policy. The government is very committed to more
racial equity, so I could be even more optimistic in his case. The
field now is oversupplied with white women. There&#8217;s a lot of
white women who want to make policy.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:
H</strong>e need to see where he&#8217;s going to fit
it into.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> I
invite you to go with him online, whether if he&#8217;s back in
Poughkeepsie, now. Go and spend some time on the phone with him,
both of you in front of the computer and look at the . .
.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
The Johns Hopkins?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> . .
. Johns Hopkins and all those schools that have premier public
health programs. And look&#8212;they always have a career section:
&#8220;Here are some of what the graduates have done.&#8221; And
that will expand his options. And I&#8217;m a big believer in being
laser-focused, so I would encourage him to pick one thing that
really excites the hell out of him. Maybe he wants to be a lobbyist
for Kaiser&#8212;who knows?&#8212;or something else, but let him
develop a goal that&#8217;s specific. And then, let him choose his
term papers, his field work, his internships, his essay for
graduate school, which graduate schools he applied to. Based on
that specific goal, he could change. But having a specific focus is
motivating and maximizes his chances at getting hired. Makes
sense?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
I couldn&#8217;t pay for this advice, I&#8217;m telling
you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Well, good. You don&#8217;t have to.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
That has been bothering me in my
gut.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good. Well, I love that you called, and I&#8217;m glad to
have helped. Feel free&#8212;I love it when callers call back. So,
it could be six months, two years, three years down the road when
things get clear and he&#8217;s made some progress, or whatever.
You&#8217;ll call me back, would you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Is there any way that this is streamed, so I can tell him to
listen to this program?</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Yes, if you go to my website MartyNemko.com, I have a link to
the KALW site, the actual page where it&#8217;s located.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Okay, but that&#8217;s my problem. I&#8217;ll research that.
Don&#8217;t worry about it, but I appreciate it. Because I think if
he could hear it, himself, it will be good rather than me heckling
it.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Good point.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 4:</strong>
Well, thanks for your time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> It
is my pleasure. Thank you for calling <em>Work with Marty
Nemko</em>. All our lines are lighted up. I will go back to the
phones, but as I said, I wanted to pepper the show with some
careers that are not obvious, that are not oversupplied like STEM
and law.</p>

<p>Status is so important to people, but I
consider status the enemy of contentment. There are a ton of jobs
in the utility industry. This may gross you out
but&#8230; I want to thank Maureen Barry, a listener to the show,
who wrote to me the following: &#8220;I&#8216;m writing today
regarding my industry, the wastewater workforce. There&#8217;s a
growing need for more people at all levels&#8212;technicians,
plumbers, engineers, planners, project managers&#8212;you name
it.&#8221;</p>

<p>So, think about utilities. Here&#8217;s
another example. Your gas stove or drier, or
whatever, there is somebody who runs that gas plant. Not
somebody&#8212;there&#8217;s lots of people who control the systems
and do checks to make sure the gas plant of PG&#38;E are working
properly.</p>

<p>Nobody thinks about those kinds of jobs.
My job is to help you go under the radar. Okay, let&#8217;s go back
to the phones. Welcome to <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.
It&#8217;s your turn on the air. How can I help? Hello.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Great program. Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Thank you.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I wanted to comment on that set of career that may not
necessarily be under the radar but that are available with a great
deal of opportunities for people that are committed, talented, and
that have drive.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. Let&#8217;s hear it.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
And this is in the area of graphic design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Web design, global design.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Really?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely. I manage a brand for a multi-billion,
multi-global corporation in the Valley and we are desperate for
qualified talent, not just talent that can put pixels together but
talent that understands the need to translate business objectives,
project objectives, utilizing their creativity, utilizing their
communication skills into effective design systems.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Fantastic.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
We are talking about 100K-150k a year, and we cannot find
people to deliver these skills.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> Got
it. Now, help me understand this. I&#8217;ve had many graphic
design clients, and they are good at the graphic design&#8212;they
make pretty things&#8212;but they&#8217;re not business people. In
fact, there are many people who love design, and they hate business
and that&#8217;s why they do their art. How does one gain the
skills as well as the values that enable them to understand the
business side of things?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I understand what you say. They don&#8217;t necessarily need
to be business-savvy. They need to understand the business, the
product that this particular company is involved in. We are
involved in hardware and software or large enterprises. They
don&#8217;t need to understand the marketplace, what our
competitors are, the overall marketing strategies, but they do need
to understand what a piece of software does, so that they can
translate it visually, in a very compelling way, to a website
design, to a brochure, to a color palette. They need to understand
what that product does for the consumer and then utilize the skills
so the visualization, rapid prototype and production bring that to
creation.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. And so, the ability to understand a complicated
product, is that just simply a matter of intelligence, or is it
something else? I&#8217;m trying to help my listeners who are
graphic designers. Is it intelligence, or is it more than
that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Intelligence&#8212;I think it also has to do with the ability
to utilize the creative process and ask the right questions to
identify the right solutions. I know that this is not tangible
enough.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Let&#8217;s be specific. Take a piece of hardware. Give me an
example of a piece of hardware where you might need a graphic
designer.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Storage.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, great. So, big, solid-state hard disks drive that are
in an array of a hundreds terabytes&#8212;is that the kind of thing
you&#8217;re talking about?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Absolutely.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Great. So, that&#8217;s the product. What do you expect this
graphic designer to be able to do regarding that
product?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
The product marketing team is going to come to the table to
us, the branding team, the branding and graphic design team, and
say, &#8220;Okay, I have this storage product that we need to
launch in three months, and here&#8217;s a long list of product
features and functionality.&#8221;&#8212;long, long. And I&#8217;ve
been in the industry for many, many years, and I still don&#8217;t
understand many of those line items on that list, but I will ask
questions about what makes this product unique.</p>

<p>Little by little, perhaps the concept of
extreme performance will come up. And, through some revisions and
through some harder interviews, extreme performance will be
continue to be a concept that bubbles up in the conversation. And
so, we will then put away the list of 20+ product features and
focus on performance. And then it is the job of the graphic
designer to come up with ideas that visualize extreme performance
but not in a vacuum, not just in any artistic way, but in a way
that makes sense for a hardware product, which means that the
visualization of it has to have very specific, back to a piece of
circuitry and metal, so that it doesn&#8217;t look like we are
talking about something soft and ephemeral.</p>

<p>And so, it is that. It&#8217;s that,
Marty. They&#8217;ll be able to ask questions that will put aside
the technical aspects of a product, focus on the benefits that the
market will receive by buying this product, and visualize in that
in a way that is appealing to the eye and engaging to the
brain.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
This is more just for curiosity: It seems like every product,
no matter how many features . . . And you&#8217;re right. The old
days of trying to market with features is stupid&#8212;it&#8217;s
always about benefits&#8212;but aren&#8217;t the benefits always
either better performance, better price, or better service? Does it
always come down to one of those three?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Perhaps, but then that is the job of the brand manager and
the product manager&#8212;to go even deeper and figure out, given
the competitive landscape in that particular product, what then to
highlight for that given period of time.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> But
if there isn&#8217;t a clear, definable benefit&#8212;let&#8217;s
say, the storage system&#8212;of either performance, price, or
follow up service, then is the product maybe not worthy of being
introduced? Isn&#8217;t that really a good litmus
test?</p>

<p>And then, let&#8217;s say it is extreme
performance. It doesn&#8217;t take a genius to get a visual, like
on the top of my head . . . If I were trying to show my
performance, that we had the lowest error rate of any hard disk
storage system, I might simply have a one-page ad that filled with
pixels that are all black, and only one&#8212;out of the ten
million pixels that are on that page&#8212;is red as a way of
instantly visualizing its outstanding low error rate. Should it be
more complicated than that?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
Well, Marty, you have to come work with me. It is as simple
as that, but it&#8217;s also as complicated as that. You would be
surprised to see how many graduates of the local and even national
graphic design schools are graduating without critical thinking
skills, critical problem solving skills, and instead of focusing
clearly on the technical aspects of the applications that we use to
do our work.</p>

<p>So, going back to your question, it is
about critical thinking. It is about intelligence; it is about
creative intelligence&#8212;translating complexity into simplicity,
product features and functionality into business solutions, and
doing all of that in the context of design, color, pattern,
typography, photography, illustration.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> You
are a fabulous caller. It has been a privilege to have you on the
show. I want to do something for you. If somebody who&#8217;s
listening to this show feels that they would do a good job for you,
do you want to give out the contact information so that they can
contact you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I will give out the contact information for the agency to
which I source talent.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, whatever.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
I encourage people who are interested in this kind of work,
who have a passion for doing meaningful work, to look up Talent
Table&#8212;and that is the agency that I source my
talents.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong> And
what&#8217;s your first name, if I can ask you?</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
My first name is Francisco.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Francisco, it has been a pleasure talking to you.
You&#8217;re anhonored member of the <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>
workforce. Thank you so much for calling the show.</p>

<p><strong>Caller 6:</strong>
With pleasure, Marty.</p>

<p><strong>Marty:</strong>
Okay, before I go to take another call, again, we&#8217;ve
been talking about under-the-radar careers. Here is something that
seems odd: I drive in San Francisco, and I see the cable car
conductors. You know, that&#8217;s kind of a fun job, for the right
person. It&#8217;s social. You&#8217;re out and about. It&#8217;s
not rocket science. It&#8217;s regular hours. And, in fact, in this
article that I&#8217;m drawing on here called &#8220;<em>40
High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>,&#8221; it&#8217;s listed as number 29&#8212;subway and
street car operators&#8212;but it&#8217;s not something most people
would think about.</p>

<p>Status is the enemy of contentment.
Please remember that some of the happiest people are not the ones
who are corporate lawyers; they have status, but they&#8217;re not
always so happy. I&#8217;m not a stupid person, and yet, if
I&#8217;m quietly asking myself, the jobs that I&#8217;ve been
happiest in my life&#8212;it&#8217;s career counselor, which is not
as prestigious as when I was a medical researcher through
Rockefeller University; and New York City cab driver, which is a
low-status job&#8212;yet I had a great time. So please don&#8217;t
let status overwhelm other factors, especially in this era where
status jobs are ever harder to come by.</p>

<p>Just a couple more examples . . . I want
to take one more phone call. These are, again, from the list of
<em>40 High-Paying Jobs that Don&#8217;t Require a Bachelor&#8217;s
Degree</em>.</p>

<p>Postmasters and mail
superintendents.</p>

<p>Power-line installers, whether it be for
telecommunications, for the evil Comcast; I do consider them evil.
Their pricing is outrageous, but they provide excellent service.
It&#8217;s just very, very expensive. They&#8217;ve essentially
driven out all competitors, so they have a monopoly&#8212;so I
don&#8217;t like them. But they do have a good product, and
they&#8217;re always hiring.</p>

<p>Transportation inspectors&#8212;One of
the sources of bioterrorism is our ports. Countless containers are
coming in. Those are jobs you don&#8217;t normally think about that
don&#8217;t require a college degree&#8212;very important&#8212;and
pay well.</p>

<p>MRI tech imaging&#8212;medical
technology imaging&#8212;you do need to have some science, but you
don&#8217;t need to be a rocket scientist. MRIs are now becoming
kind of pass&#233;. MEG scanners seem to be hot these days, which
have higher resolution and less radiation.</p>

<p>Those are great careers that don&#8217;t
necessarily require a college degree.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m going to stop there. Let me
see if I can take one more call; no, I&#8217;m not going to do
that.</p>

<p>I promised myself I wanted to do this
for you. I&#8217;m really privileged that AOL has asked me to write
a continuing saga about work for them. I&#8217;m calling it
&#8220;<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>&#8221;, and I thought I
would see if you guys like them. I&#8217;m going to read you the
first episode, as a way of ending today&#8217;s show. Let me just
give you a little background.</p>

<p>While it&#8217;s fiction, it attempts to
embed realities of today&#8217;s workplace plus my opinions and
musings and advice in all manners of things. It&#8217;s about a
family&#8217;s ups and downs. It&#8217;s computer geek David, his
music teacher wife Susan, and their active son Adam. I just thought
if I presented a career advice and workplace advice and life advice
in the context of a story, it might be more interesting.</p>

<p>Part one of <em>Days of Our Work
Lives</em> called &#8220;<em>David&#8217;s Saga</em>&#8221;;
Episode One is <em>&#8220;Open&#8221; Workspaces</em>.</p>

<p>&#8220;As usual, David Sapian awoke
grateful&#8212;grateful he&#8217;s well and that he has a decent
job.</p>

<p>&#8220;Although he works very full-time,
he dutifully helps his wife Susan get their 7-year-old son Adam
ready for school. Today, David tried to get Adam to take his own
cereal, but Adam likes being served so he threw a fit.</p>

<p>&#8220;David was grateful to finally
escape into his car. He even preferred sitting in gridlock to his
home&#8217;s morning madness&#8212;but gridlock raises his blood
pressure, too. He&#8217;s angry not at the drivers but at the darn
transportation planners for refusing to build more freeways,
so&#8212;a la slowly ratcheted-up torture&#8212;we&#8217;re forced
to sit in our cars and in ever more time-consuming and sardine mass
transit. David would rather sit in gridlock in the sanctuary of his
car.</p>

<p>&#8220;He arrived at the double-glass
doors. &#8216;It&#8217;s showtime,&#8217; he reminded himself. He
pasted his corporate-acceptable smile and made corporate-acceptable
greetings to co-workers as he strode to his cube. In corporate
America, especially if you&#8217;re 40+, you may not trudge; you
must stride. But not too fast&#8212;that would make you seem
insufficiently controlled, just a moderate stride, with good
posture: chin up, back straight, shoulders back, chest out. As
<em>Cosmo</em> founder Helen Gurley Brown said, &#8216;After 40, it
all comes down to posture.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;HR had sent an email indicating
they might finally might listen to employees&#8217; pleas to add
high walls to the cubicles. David thought, &#8216;What a stupid
idea&#8212;open space workplaces. Yeah, let&#8217;s just
collaborate, if listening to people blab about their kids is a sort
of collaboration you want. But you can&#8217;t think, get any work
done, certainly.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s been six months since
HR sent that memo and, no surprise, still no walls. I guess
they&#8217;re too busy revamping their corporate mission statement.
After all, it&#8217;s hard to keep justifying, &#8216;People are
our most important product,&#8217; when they keep announcing
layoffs to reduce headcount&#8212;oops&#8212;to rightsize the
organization.</p>

<p>&#8220;No sooner did David&#8217;s butt
hit his chair when a colleague came in: &#8216;Hey, David, the Big
Enchilada wants to see us in five minutes.&#8217;</p>

<p>&#8220;&#8216;That can&#8217;t be good.
Will I still have a job?&#8217;&#8221;</p>

<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s episode one of
<em>Days of Our Work Lives</em>. If you guys seem to like it, email
me to let me know you like it&#8212;I may do more&#8212;but for
today, that is <em>Work with Marty Nemko</em>.</p>

<p>I want to thank my board operator and,
of course, all of you for listening and calling in. Please join me
again next Sunday at 11. I will do three-minute work-overs on
callers.</p>

<p>And, according to a just released report
from the Bureau of Labor Statistics, the fastest growing field, one
you may not have heard of&#8212;industrial and organizational
psychology, with jobs expected to jump 53% by 2022. I&#8217;ll talk
with the former president of the Society for Industrial and
Organizational Psychology Doug Reynolds.</p>

<p>Until next Sunday, this is Marty Nemko
reminding you: We find comfort among those who agree with us;
growth among those who don&#8217;t.</p>
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      <title>My Top 16 Pieces of Career Advice</title>
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<p>With petabytes of career advice out there, how
do you find what's really crucial? Here's one guy's votes:<br /></p>
<p><strong>Choosing a Career and
Job</strong><br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Focus on what really
matters</em></strong>. You're more likely to be happy with your
career and job if you focus less on its prestige or coolness and
more on finding a career and job that uses your natural strengths
and doesn't tax your weaknesses, is appropriately challenging, with
a good boss and coworkers, reasonable pay, commute, and job
security.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Career passion comes AFTER you've
chosen it.</em></strong> Most people came to love their career only
after they chose it and took the time to become a go-to guy/gal at
it. So take a month or three to explore career options and then
pick what feels best, even if it doesn't make you want to do
handsprings.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Landing a Job<br /></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>One job-search method does not fit
all.</em></strong> For example, networking works only for some
people. If it hasn't worked for you in the past, more networking
will more likely burn you out than land you a job. Based on your
past performance and current preferences, decide the proportion of
job search time you should spend on in-person networking, online
networking, cold-contact of employers, answering ads, and
headhunters.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Use a point-by-point cover
letter.</em></strong> In answering a job ad, the best cover letter
explains, point-by-point, how you meet the main job
requirements.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Negotiation <em><br /></em></strong></p>
<p><strong><em>Get a second offer.</em></strong>
When you think an offer is coming, let your other prospects know
that and ask if they're willing to fast-track the decision to hire
you. Having two or more employers competing for you boosts your
negotiating position. <strong><br /></strong></p>
<p><strong>Succeeding on the job</strong><br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Find out the
truth.</em></strong> <a href=
"http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-205_162-57568186/everyone-thinks-they-are-above-average/">
Most people think they're above average</a>. Getting the truth can
help you before it's too late. And if you are above average,
feedback helps you be even better. Ongoing, get feedback from your
boss and respected coworkers, perhaps using <a href=
"http://www.checkster.com/solutions/talent-checkup/">TalentCheckup</a>.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>You must stop
procrastinatng</em></strong>. Procrastination is a career killer.
When I've polled audiences of successful people such as executives,
only 10-20 percent describe themselves as procrastinators. In
contrast, when I poll audiences of unemployed people, 80 percent
do. Please remember that the short-term relief of deferring tasks
is far exceeded by the long-term pain. Procrastination may have
worked in school but, except in low-level jobs, there's much less
grade inflation in the workplace. Get comfortable being
uncomfortable. That too shall pass.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Think
time-effectiveness.</em></strong> Ongoing, ask if yourself, "Is
this worth doing?" And if so, how perfectionistically?"
Just as we drive faster or slower depending on
the situation, we should choose the right speed for tackling a
task.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>If you're smart, avoid
teams.</em></strong> Not withstanding the ubiquitous public
extolling of teamwork, the following rule of thumb is generally
wiser: Try to work solo if you're brighter and more motivated than
most of your coworkers. If you're not, get on teams.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Tell <em>quest stories</em>.</strong>
Everyone knows that most people are persuaded more by story than by
statistics but less well-known is that a most powerful form of
story is the <em>quest story</em>: Describe a problem and the
travails of trying to solve it, ideally a problem you
tackled.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Hire slow; fire
fast.</em></strong> Hiring may be the manager's most important
task. Rather than rely on responses to job ads, tap your extended
network--they're more likely to refer good candidates. Then
evaluate applicants mainly by having them do simulations of tough
tasks they'll encounter on the job.<br /></p>
<p>If an employee is doing poorly, after a brief
attempt at remediation, it's usually wiser to cut your losses and
try someone else. Extra time is usually not only wasted and
stressful but increases the employee's enmity and, in turn,
likelihood of filing a wrongful termination claim.<br /></p>
<p><strong>Self-Employment</strong><br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Don't innovate;
replicate.</em></strong> The leading edge too often turns out to be
the bleeding edge. Guinea pigs usually die. So you lower your risk
in starting a business by taking a proven business idea and cloning
it in a new location or giving it a minor tweak. For example,
you're more likely to succeed by incorporating the best features of
five busy laundromats into yours than by trying to invent some new
product.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Keep it simple.</em></strong> The
more complicated the business, the bigger the risk. Do one simple
thing well. For example, sell amazing grilled cheese
sandwiches.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Be cheap.</em></strong> Money is a
business's lifeblood. Spend too much and you'll die. So, for
example, work from home or see if you can get space free from a
friend, a room in a church, whatever. Hire on a just-in-time,
by-the hour basis. Use a template website, not a custom-created
one. Figure out how much to pay for products based not on the
retail price but on what it must cost to manufacture. Example:
Eyeglass frames may cost $200 retail but pennies to make--they're
just cheap metal or plastic. So if you, Mr. Optician, think you're
getting a good deal in buying frames "wholesale" for $50, you're
wrong. $1.00 is closer to right.<br /></p>
<p><strong>General advice</strong><br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Work long hours.</em></strong>
That doesn't sound like fun but when you're doing work you're good
at and realize that the life-well-led really is mainly about
productivity, you'll be glad to work long hours, even if it didn't
increase your job security or make you more money.<br /></p>
<p><strong><em>Follow my father's
advice.</em></strong> When I asked him, a Holocaust survivor, why
he so rarely talked about that, he said, "The Nazis took five years
from my life. I won't give them one minute more. Never look back.
Always take the next step forward." I can offer no better
advice.</p>
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